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DA Mini Mafia #2 (Day 1)

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Kangaroo-Jolty
ZeroPassion
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DMK
Shameless
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niney16
Linda-Senpai
Omega Ophion
Lux
faervel
Debi
CrimsonOverlord
Drunkion
DanelerH
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #2


What is Mini Mafia?


Spoiler :




Roles


PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!


NOTE: THE MAYOR HAS BEEN NERFED DUE TO THE SIZE OF OUR GAMES! HIS/HER VOTES WILL NOW COUNT FOR TWO, NOT THREE! THE STUDENT HAS ALSO BEEN NERFED! IT MUST NOW CHOOSE A MENTOR TO WIN!

Town
Spoiler :


Mafia
Spoiler :


Evil Neutrals
Spoiler :
 


Benign Neutrals
Spoiler :



Order of Operations


This is the order night actions take place in


1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups


Sign ups


BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


1. DanelerH
2. Drunkion
3. CrimsonOverlord
4. Debi
5. faervel
6. hazmah
7. niney16
8. ScottyAdams
9. Shameless
10. DMK
11. ZeroPassion
12. Mr. Kandy
13. Kangaroo Jolty
14. Yami Moto #1
15. username290
16. Galaksii

Reserves:
1. 
2.

I will take any number of sign ups with two as the bare minimum. Signups will end on 7/10/16


Prizes

Winners get 1500 DP.


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oh excuse me, we are not skipping day 1

ty double posting

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ZeroPassion wrote:
WE ARE UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES NOT SKIPPING DAY 1


Could you explain why not?

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Lux wrote:
ZeroPassion wrote:
WE ARE UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES NOT SKIPPING DAY 1


Could you explain why not?



Unfortunately I'm going to have to leave in a little bit and would make this a more informative post, HOWEVER, for sake of abbreviation:


- Skipping day is more beneficial to mafia / neutrals on the sheer basis of no information acquired during the day to lean toward a player being anti-town aka scummy - posts are indicative on this, and skipping day is NOT a good town mindset.
- The only known power roles town has are Doctor and Sheriff - relying on them only and hoping for a blind hit is not beneficial at all
- Not everyone has posted and skipping day already without them posting is generally not a good indicator of how active they are going to be.

Why do you think skipping day is more beneficial to town?

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A huge HoS to the players who wanted a skipday.

HoS meaning hand of suspicion, meaning a generally scummy act that requires watching but not committing a vote aka lynch

I'd link to some mafia lingo but I can't do any linking as of yet. I'm surprised linda hasn't given y'all more information on the general game of mafia.

I understand the want for a playerbase who is newer to the game, but the only time a skipday would be useful is when a lynch is locked (personally day should end once a lynch majority is reached wo the use of skipday)

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I swear to god if day is skipped before I return I'm gonna have a cow. e.e

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ZeroPassion wrote:
Lux wrote:
ZeroPassion wrote:
WE ARE UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES NOT SKIPPING DAY 1


Could you explain why not?



Unfortunately I'm going to have to leave in a little bit and would make this a more informative post, HOWEVER, for sake of abbreviation:


- Skipping day is more beneficial to mafia / neutrals on the sheer basis of no information acquired during the day to lean toward a player being anti-town aka scummy - posts are indicative on this, and skipping day is NOT a good town mindset.
- The only known power roles town has are Doctor and Sheriff - relying on them only and hoping for a blind hit is not beneficial at all
- Not everyone has posted and skipping day already without them posting is generally not a good indicator of how active they are going to be.

Why do you think skipping day is more beneficial to town?


It's not what benefits just town, it's what benefits the whole game. And on Day 1, what benefits the game is skipping and moving forward because there's nothing to begin with. 


Look, all I can comment right now is that we have 10 towns, 3 mafia and 3 neutrals. Looking at the set-up, these mafia and neutral roles must have been powerful in that case. But do I know who could be Mafia/Neutral? No? Will I find out on Day 1? No I won't. That's why I think skipping Day 1 is the best option. 

And suspecting players who want to skip day is very foolish and to say at least it's not professionally. Tell me who would run the risk revealing their role at Day 1? No one.  

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Lol nice try at randomly killing someone since day 1, yku have literally no info to start with.

/skipday

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I seem to recall that on the second game I played here, nobody died on Night 1, yet we still tried to lynch someone on Day 2.  What's the difference?

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Literally progression. Guessing why nobody died night 1 etc. Whats your basis for lynching someone atm? I lynch you cuz i suspect you for posting? Lol

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Lux :


Uhh...Citizen here?
k jokes aside @ZP no matter how we look at it it'll end up as a random lynch day 1 and random information which are 50%+ lies unless someone just shouts they are mafia or something.At a setup this big I'd say even day 2's conversation might end up with no results either...
Also I prefer using FoS I mean...you point a finger...you don't point your hand...

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So why not do the same thing on Day 1, then?  If I recall correctly, I was only under suspicion because I was trying to skip the day because we had no new information.

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Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

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So ok then. You guys are the only 2 proposing not to skip. If you were mafia youd get 2 kills if we lynch someone today. That benefits you. Does this start the game of suspicion now?

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Sure.  ZeroPassion and I are currently the most suspicious.  Let's start there.

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Ok then, but that is the only lead we have. It's also quite likely some other killer role will benefit from this. Aka going back to what i said. If we lynch someone today, we just give a free one off to killer roles. Now you can say it's 50% chance that we might hit a badguy, sure but it's literally gambling with no evidence of contradictions

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Welp I am not exactly a fan of random discussions day 1 but...here goes nothing;
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I've realized that they apparently do that on DNF and sometimes even RNG vote which I don't get at all and Dan's already insisted on not skipping day 1 regardless of role
You on the other hand Crims should've known that so FoS towards you!

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faervel wrote:
Welp I am not exactly a fan of random discussions day 1 but...here goes nothing;
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I've realized that they apparently do that on DNF and sometimes even RNG vote which I don't get at all and Dan's already insisted on not skipping day 1 regardless of role
You on the other hand Crims should've known that so FoS towards you!

I'm explaining as to why it's completely rng. Care to elaborate further?

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DanelerH wrote:
Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

Look you can think of it whatever you want to think.


Faer, there are 16 players in the game. Everyone can claim Citizen now. What's your point? 


Seriously, we aren't really discussing anything right now. On the other hand, Dan, you are playing DA mafia since first round (4 times already) and if I'm not mistaken you skipped day every single time. Why acting smarter now? 

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To his defense he has been questioning this motive for 2 rounds now, so its not out of the blue for him, but it is meaningless

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Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

Look you can think of it whatever you want to think.


Faer, there are 16 players in the game. Everyone can claim Citizen now. What's your point? 


Seriously, we aren't really discussing anything right now. On the other hand, Dan, you are playing DA mafia since first round (4 times already) and if I'm not mistaken you skipped day every single time. Why acting smarter now? 

Yeah exactly my point I was just kidding Luxand SERIOUSLY we have so many games starting with a random lynch of a vanilla town cause you HAD TO lynch day 1...I don't see why you guys still do that there...

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Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

Look you can think of it whatever you want to think.


Faer, there are 16 players in the game. Everyone can claim Citizen now. What's your point? 


Seriously, we aren't really discussing anything right now. On the other hand, Dan, you are playing DA mafia since first round (4 times already) and if I'm not mistaken you skipped day every single time. Why acting smarter now? 

Second game, actually, but still four rounds.  Last game, I asked what the point of skipping Day 1 was, so this isn't my first instance of wanting a Day 1 discussion.  As an actual answer to your question, it's because I'm still learning the game.  I want to try different things, even if others think it's the wrong way.  There's no harm in trying something for one game.  Maybe we'll find that it's a better way.  Even if it turns out to be wrong, we would still get first-hand experience on why it's wrong.

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DanelerH wrote:
Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

Look you can think of it whatever you want to think.


Faer, there are 16 players in the game. Everyone can claim Citizen now. What's your point? 


Seriously, we aren't really discussing anything right now. On the other hand, Dan, you are playing DA mafia since first round (4 times already) and if I'm not mistaken you skipped day every single time. Why acting smarter now? 

Second game, actually, but still four rounds.  Last game, I asked what the point of skipping Day 1 was, so this isn't my first instance of wanting a Day 1 discussion.  As an actual answer to your question, it's because I'm still learning the game.  I want to try different things, even if others think it's the wrong way.  There's no harm in trying something for one game.  Maybe we'll find that it's a better way.  Even if it turns out to be wrong, we would still get first-hand experience on why it's wrong.


I got your point but you can't do something if there's nothing to begin with. Inspectors in CSI can't work without a crime. Neither can we. You can go ahead and random lynch someone you find suspicious (for example me because I apparently want so hard to skip Day 1), but if I show up as a town I'm not sure will that benefit Town more than skipping Day 1. Wink 

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DanelerH wrote:
Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Think of it this way:  Qhy would Day 1 exist if it was useless?  Why not just start on Night 1, then?

Look you can think of it whatever you want to think.


Faer, there are 16 players in the game. Everyone can claim Citizen now. What's your point? 


Seriously, we aren't really discussing anything right now. On the other hand, Dan, you are playing DA mafia since first round (4 times already) and if I'm not mistaken you skipped day every single time. Why acting smarter now? 

Second game, actually, but still four rounds.  Last game, I asked what the point of skipping Day 1 was, so this isn't my first instance of wanting a Day 1 discussion.  As an actual answer to your question, it's because I'm still learning the game.  I want to try different things, even if others think it's the wrong way.  There's no harm in trying something for one game.  Maybe we'll find that it's a better way.  Even if it turns out to be wrong, we would still get first-hand experience on why it's wrong.

I really like your way of thinking(I mean...it did win me the game last game :3) but...we're not 1st people to play mafia and basically...I...uhh...all of us actually just don't want this: http://prntscr.com/bp2c28 to happen

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Oh, shit. I was late to the party. Personally, I don't think skipping day 1 is too good. Less fun imo RNG is fun. But it's literally pointless to not vote skip because everyone else is going to. Saying not to skip just puts a target on your back here. Becareful. Razz

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You know what this discussion is pointless as we don't have evidence. If you want to discuss something Day 1 (Which is 100% pointless) we need to create evidence. Anybody who is willing to reveal their role should reveal their role. Otherwise it is pointless and we should skip.

I claim Citizen

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LOL, Revealing on day 1? hell no im not trusting that also citizen its the easiest claim for a fake role, since we know for sure there are more than 1

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Debi wrote:
You know what this discussion is pointless as we don't have evidence. If you want to discuss something Day 1 (Which is 100% pointless) we need to create evidence. Anybody who is willing to reveal their role should reveal their role. Otherwise it is pointless and we should skip.

I claim Citizen

Pretty much the ONLY way for this discussion to work and for the RNG vote to make sense is to have all town power roles to reveal themselves and then RNG the remaining people that didn't role reveal or choose someone between the counter claims soo....do you guys REALLY wanna do that? DA Mini Mafia #2 (Day 1) - Page 3 576792747


And nope DMK we don't suspect people towards not wanting to skipday unless it's really unreasonable...which starting to feel like it is....

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If Dan and co want something to happen on day one let's lynch Dan cause he wants it so much

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to be honest, dan already made himself lynched so many times it gets boring playing town with him xD, he always makes himself get killed

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