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DA Mini Mafia #3 (Mafia & Benign win)

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SilentKatana
Linda-Senpai
Omega Ophion
faervel
Lux
Alisae
Debi
CrimsonOverlord
Pepchoninga
Drunkion
DanelerH
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #3


What is Mini Mafia?

Spoiler :


Roles:
PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!

Town:

Spoiler :


Mafia:

Spoiler :



Evil Neutrals:

Spoiler :


Benign Neutrals:

Spoiler :




Order of Operations

This is the order night actions take place in:

1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups

BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


Accepted Participants:

1. DanelerH
2. Drunkion
3. Pepchoninga
4. CrimsonOverlord
5. Debi
6. Dazo
7. Lux
8. faervel
9. SilentKatana
10. Mr.Kandy
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

Reserves:
1. Omega Ophion
2.
3.



Role Set-up This Game:

Citizen
Citizen
Doctor
Sheriff
Hidden Town
Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Benign Neutral
Evil Neutral


Prizes

Winners receive 1,500 DP


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That reasoning is true, however that's how you judge on this game, based on slips. What gives of mafioso vibes? Bandwaggoning, citizen role claim so early. The citizen role claim is what mainly blew him off as i explained. Well anyway thats my punch for now

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Im not being fiery, im just tired of discussing this again, adn again and again, and being always right lol its like you people dont learn from mistakes

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I do agree debi is the most suspicious for now, im hella im not lynching him, if someone like faer would have made the citizen claim i would have been lynching him, but since its debi you gotta udnerstand, it happens... sadly..

still it didnt favour him

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A good player doesn't change his playstyle. He only adapts it following the circumstances.

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what baka lux said, you aint going to do the opposite of what you did past games just to prove you are not the role you were that game, that's retarded, you need to adapt to your role, other players and how its devolvping

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Why are you so obsessed with lynching, farkion?

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i would like to join if possible

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We might need you as a substitute. Unfortunately, the sign-up phase has been closed.

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@dazo, @silentkatana are also in this. Thoughts ?

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Drunkion wrote:
IF YOU WANT A LYNCH DAY 1, YOU ARE CLEARLY MAFIA, WHY? go read my other 85 post about this and how everyone who tried it was actually mafia, beocuse it just benefits mafia so much, 


/lynch CrimsonOverlord


Also question
Can you explain this for me?

Drunkion wrote:
but since its debi you gotta udnerstand, it happens... sadly..


Another thing. It wasn't a stupid claim, we needed something to go off of, the only thing we could have used is difference or similarities based on other games. Otherwise we wouldn't have gotten anything out of day 1, and it would have been pointless. If it wasn't me making a claim it would have been someone else.

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Lol that random lynch. Ok lynch me if you think so, i dont mind

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So, Debi, are you still claiming Citizen or was it only to get things going? I just want to get things clear.

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Alignment Suspicions:
(Leaning) Town - Lux, Faervel
Null - Pep, Crimson, and Debi
(Leaning) Mafia - Drunkion

First of all, my thoughts on the Crimson vs Debi argument.  Between the two of them, I feel that Debi is more suspicious, as the Citizen claim was unnecessary, however I find it fairly likely this is just a Town vs Town fight that occurred from both of them trying to bait Mafia.  As such, they are listed as Null for now.

Drunkion is currently the most suspicious to me.  Xe is hindering the Day 1 discussion by trying to skip the day and claiming that Day 1 discussion is pointless.  This logic baffles me, as the only difference between Day 1 and Day 2 is a dead Town role.  Immediately afterwards, xe claims that Debi and Crimson's argument is terrible.  While I do think it's likely Town vs Town (as I said earlier), that doesn't mean the argument is pointless, as it helps everyone make reads.

(If you want my reasoning for the other reads, let me know and I'll provide them, but I thought the reasoning for Crimson, Debi, and Drunkion was the most important.)

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Lux wrote:
So, Debi, are you still claiming Citizen or was it only to get things going? I just want to get things clear.

Pardon me for butting in here, as the question at hand wasn't towards me, is not claiming citizen a bulletproof vest for the time being you decide to wear? To make others go ooooh he might actually be a citizen role claiming. Let me give you a reason he isn't. If he was a true citizen, he wouldn't role reveal this early, because now he just gave mafia a free kill and information. Mafia now knows he is citizen and he basically gave them a free kill. Ofc this won't happen that's why he claimed it, knowing this. He also claimed at a point where no one was targetting him, further pushing for the innocence card.That is my reasoning behind it

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@Lux I'm still claiming Citizen

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CrimsonOverlord wrote:
Lux wrote:
So, Debi, are you still claiming Citizen or was it only to get things going? I just want to get things clear.

Pardon me for butting in here, as the question at hand wasn't towards me, is not claiming citizen a bulletproof vest for the time being you decide to wear? To make others go ooooh he might actually be a citizen role claiming. Let me give you a reason he isn't. If he was a true citizen, he wouldn't role reveal this early, because now he just gave mafia a free kill and information. Mafia now knows he is citizen and he basically gave them a free kill. Ofc this won't happen that's why he claimed it, knowing this. He also claimed at a point where no one was targetting him, further pushing for the innocence card.That is my reasoning behind it


I was just asking, for my own theories and beliefs. 


And Dan, I'm curious to see why have you put me and faervel among towns. Both of us have shown so far pretty decent skills when it comes to acting as a Town. 

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"And Dan, I'm curious to see why have you put me and faervel among towns. Both of us have shown so far pretty decent skills when it comes to acting as a Town. "

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Lux wrote:
And Dan, I'm curious to see why have you put me and faervel among towns. Both of us have shown so far pretty decent skills when it comes to acting as a Town. 


In order:  Lux has been helpful to Pep in teaching the win conditions for the various factions and has been attempting to get a Day 1 discussion going.  Faevel took the first chance to start a discussion that could lead to a role-find.  While neither of these mean "Guaranteed Town", they're enough for an early lean towards Town (which may end up changing as the game progresses).

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@Crims he does that a lot actually...
And about Fark...Idk..that is obviously his play style and I don't think I can color him dark grey cause of that yet...
BUt again @Farkion ALL those 85 posts lead to same thing:You are saying this is wrong cause both Hazmah&ZP were mafia in those games,which honestly is nothing more than a coincidence imo,It's the eact same defense that exists for you as well.Someone's playstyle doesn't make'em scummy.
Am I asking you to change that playstyle?Well...kinda.
Do I REALLY want you to change that?Nope,it gives us something to argue over at day 1 and to get some slip ups here&there:3


P.S I don't see any problem with Bladecharge joining as sub...I did join in as a late sub on my 1st game here as well.

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Drunkion wrote:
 Lux has been helpful to Pep in teaching the win conditions for the various factions and has been attempting to get a Day 1 discussion going.  Faevel took the first chance to start a discussion that could lead to a role-find.


I've done and succeeded with both. So how does that make them town and not me?

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You are a smart fucking ass, Lux Razz 


Debi has made some overly fast decisions in my opinion, but ones that definitely don't fit the picture of a mafia imo. Still that random lynch on Crimson doesn't exactly go on with my previous sentence. 


Crimson is being crimson. I would say he is giving good points on Debi's situation. 


Drunks is my biggest suspicion as well so far. While we do know he has other things on his hand (much like myself, as I'm not fully committed to mafia like last game), he is in no way a dumb player, so he knows that since he is in this game, he needs to play it. And if he really IS playing, then he is not really fueling my claim of him bot being dumb. I belive both mafia and town would have benefits of a lynch on day one. Neutral probably even more. So he is either being a total retard, or is trying to bluff us. 

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I do have that innocent aura around me, though  sunny

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Not after last game, you evil mastermind Razz 

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I don't think that Debi is Mafia, but I don't think he's town, either.

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Meh I don't dislike this aura...specially if it's putting me in same group as Lux in Dan's grouping :3
*Hands Lux a mask
k. now with my analyses before I sleep:
Dan:I can't really tell if the fact that Dan's mafia team lost last time was duo to Dan being unexperienced or just an unlucky lose...but about this game he has the same uhh..."aura" as always imo but again we've never had the chance to know if he's a hidden good mafia...but well...hopefully we still won't know after this game cause I think I'm trusting him for the time being("which might change depending on the game flow")
Drunk:Not enough data T.T,a.k.a same pattern as always
Lux:Well..what Dan says is pretty much all to be said atm...Also questioning the person that finds you safe is not a common scum play so + points there I guess...
Pep:There's not much to compare him to soo...no data here either.
Debi:Even more random than usual with the citizen claim...kinda coloring him darker than usual with that.
Crims:Same thing about Fark.Good(?) ol' Crims ^.^
@Dazo @Vasko1234 @SilentKatana hey guys you're also in this~!

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I'd make a post posting my reads on all of the players, too, but that's just not how I roll.


I don't have any suspection on anyone, anyway, yet. I just have couple of reads and theories.


Can't wait for Day 2.


Also, I have quite an interesting theory when it comes to @Pepchoninga, y'all will want to hear that one, but I'm still calculating the probabilities and possibilities, along with the circumstances. It's just a theory.

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Well a read is a read, let us see what you came up with

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Um, eh, well, actually. If I say it out now, and my theory is correct, it's gonna be avoided in the future. Let's wait and see if I'm getting the right vibes from Pep. 

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Katana is confused so far q-q


Personally kinda agree with Fark about the relative pointlessness of this, but then, I haven't played in a long time >.>

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Seriously dan? again? we had this discussion last game, i said lynching day 1 will help mafia, you said i was mafia becouse i didnt want a lynch day 1, i wasnt, surprise, you got me again wohoo sherlock.

Im just being "aggresive" becouse i cant believe we have this discussion every single game, and all of them the mafioso was trying to get a lynch on day 1.

But do whatever you want lol, to be honest i dont think dan is mafia he is just slow becouse he repeats the same arguments every game.


What i think? i do have people in my mind for each role but will not say them yet becouse im unsure.

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