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DA Mini Mafia #3 (Mafia & Benign win)

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SilentKatana
Linda-Senpai
Omega Ophion
faervel
Lux
Alisae
Debi
CrimsonOverlord
Pepchoninga
Drunkion
DanelerH
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #3


What is Mini Mafia?

Spoiler :


Roles:
PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!

Town:

Spoiler :


Mafia:

Spoiler :



Evil Neutrals:

Spoiler :


Benign Neutrals:

Spoiler :




Order of Operations

This is the order night actions take place in:

1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups

BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


Accepted Participants:

1. DanelerH
2. Drunkion
3. Pepchoninga
4. CrimsonOverlord
5. Debi
6. Dazo
7. Lux
8. faervel
9. SilentKatana
10. Mr.Kandy
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.

Reserves:
1. Omega Ophion
2.
3.



Role Set-up This Game:

Citizen
Citizen
Doctor
Sheriff
Hidden Town
Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Benign Neutral
Evil Neutral


Prizes

Winners receive 1,500 DP


Last edited by NightBot on Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:41 am; edited 12 times in total

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Drunkion wrote:
Seriously dan? again? we had this discussion last game, i said lynching day 1 will help mafia, you said i was mafia becouse i didnt want a lynch day 1, i wasnt, surprise, you got me again wohoo sherlock.

Im just being "aggresive" becouse i cant believe we have this discussion every single game, and all of them the mafioso was trying to get a lynch on day 1.

But do whatever you want lol, to be honest i dont think dan is mafia he is just slow becouse he repeats the same arguments every game.


What i think? i do have people in my mind for each role but will not say them yet becouse im unsure.


Maybe I'm just getting into more of a Day 1 Lynch mindset because that's what I've been playing recently (my last two games were ones where we had lynch every day and voting was mandatory), but it doesn't change the fact that you are hindering Town by attempting to prevent Day 1 discussion.  Yes, lynching Day 1 can help Mafia.  So can any other day.

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The logic is that day 1 lynch boosts mafia speed in ending the game. So your argument about any other day having the same weight kinda falls. Lynching day 1 is 50/50. You can hit big and a hit a bad role, or u can fk up and kill a good role.

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Holy shit the spam. You know I have to read this shit right?

Anyhow, I dunno about ywall, but I was taught that if I don't have anything to say, don't say it.

/skipday

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Dazo wrote:
Holy shit the spam. You know I have to read this shit right?

Anyhow, I dunno about ywall, but I was taught that if I don't have anything to say, don't say it.

/skipday


You have nothing to say?  Give us some opinions.  Who do you think is currently the most likely to be Mafia and why?  Do you think Debi vs Crimson is Town vs Mafia or Town vs Town?

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DanelerH wrote:
Dazo wrote:
Holy shit the spam. You know I have to read this shit right?

Anyhow, I dunno about ywall, but I was taught that if I don't have anything to say, don't say it.

/skipday


You have nothing to say?  Give us some opinions.  Who do you think is currently the most likely to be Mafia and why?  Do you think Debi vs Crimson is Town vs Mafia or Town vs Town?
I think that the Illuminati did the Mafia and the Godfather is the man, the myth, the legend, George W. Bush because he did 7/11. Yeah, I have nothing to fucking say, it's day 1.

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Dazo wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Dazo wrote:
Holy shit the spam. You know I have to read this shit right?

Anyhow, I dunno about ywall, but I was taught that if I don't have anything to say, don't say it.

/skipday


You have nothing to say?  Give us some opinions.  Who do you think is currently the most likely to be Mafia and why?  Do you think Debi vs Crimson is Town vs Mafia or Town vs Town?

I think that the Illuminati did the Mafia and the Godfather is the man, the myth, the legend, George W. Bush because he did 7/11. Yeah, I have nothing to fucking say, it's day 1.


/lynch Dazo


Just because it's Day 1, that doesn't mean information can't be gained.  Give me a serious answer.

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Alrighty, I decided to tell Dan my role privately.

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Dazo wrote:
Alrighty, I decided to tell Dan my role privately.

I don't think you can do that, so I'll just pretend I didn't see that.

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Apparently it's okay for me to have this information.  As such, I will play using it.

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Never mind.  It's apparently a rule that NightBot didn't realize, so I'm once again going to pretend this never happened.

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I dunno how I was supposed to know that I couldn't PM someone what I am claiming privately, but back to the subject matter at hand.

If you really want to lynch me, fuckin do it. You're only hurting yourself lmao.

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dan did a pressure move on you, he doesnt believe in actually lynching you, and you fell for it :/

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If the mishap that happened above is what you call me falling for the bait, I had my own reasoning for taking the bait in the first place. If you call my reaction after knowing that I did something I couldn't do because I was just uninformed, then I didn't give him any information in the end.

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Well..1st of all this really isn't spam but whatever
Dazo seriously chill DA Mini Mafia #3 (Mafia & Benign win) - Page 5 576792747
It was a pressure vote and it did pressure you and I really can't tell that's being scummy or just not being used to the playstyle but I have a feeling it's the 2nd one and you'd insta role-reveal if we go further...

Anyway I don't wanna have this argument again but all I want from day 1 personally is just to know what everyone thinks of everyone cause even if it seems truly random,mafia usually avoids pressuring other mafias so it'd be nice if you could post your reads/opinions as well.
Besides that,not sure if this day has much more to offer; shall we skip?

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I am chill...Sorta...I'm just sorta salty my plan didn't work out. And Salty because I have school and I miss stuff because I'm not EU. dw tho, I think I know what I am doing. And I seriously don't have opinions, for all I know, anyone could be an idiot that decides to go kill someone.
Also @Nightbot, if you can update the role setup in the OP, that would be great!

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By "role set-up" do you mean what order Night Actions are done in? Or what?

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First dazo says lol its day 1 wtf do you expect, next he said he had a plan which failed. Spilled sphaghetti to dan, which ofc is bs he won't role reveal to another person he isn't even sure who is, so basically he made a bluff. Thing is day 1 may not be the easiest day to talk to, but we did start a debate. Avoiding it JUST because day 1 is useless to some isn't a very strong argument

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Note: This post was timed to be around 8:10 AM, so like 4 hours earlier, I was cut from electric power until now.


Guys, guys. Please. I have posted a good comparasion earlier. Day 1 discussing is like when two fighters are exchanging blows but none of them are going for a K.O. yet!
 
Of course that Day 1 misslynch is fatal, every misslynch if fatal! Actually, I think that Day 2 misslynch is even worse! Why? Here's why! If we misslynch at Day 1 and somehow amazingly survive the night, we know much more going into Day 2 and the probability to make a succesfull misslynch on Day 2 then increases. And if we misslynch on Day two, we just lose a player on the Night 1 for no reason. Town must make sacrifices and risks in order to win in this game, because they are equal numberred with Neutrals and Mafia. It's not like in the Wolf Mafia where Town is OP and wins every time.
 
Crimson is ready to have a Day 1 discussion even though he sees no purpose on it. That's something, at least. 
 
Drunkion, no one is aiming for a lynch yet. No one. We are simply discussing. I've told you this as much as you have said that Day 1 makes no sense. If you cannot spot the difference, then...ugh. 
 
Why would a experienced host like Linda give us Day 1 if it's useless? We could just straight jump into the night! But there is obviously some purpose of Day 1, too.
 
I don't know what's going through bote's head, but it's some bote I'm not used to. Private Role-reveal is also very surprising, but then I'll also act like it never happened (I don't have that info, to stop the confusion).
 

What is there is some killing neutral role, like Serial Killer for example? And both SK and Mafia kill a townie tonight, wouldn't Town lose too? Yes they would. We know that SK must be the last player alive in order to win,  but if he has no damn clue about who to kill because we had no Day 1 discussion, then I assume he would just go for a blind kill. Can you risk that, heroic town players that do not like Day 1 discussion?  Oh, come on! 


Also, Dan. You have asked several players do you think Crimson vs Debi argument is Town vs Town or Town vs Mafia, but what if it's Mafia vs Mafia? I don't want to include neutrals in these probabilities.

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Lol i like how lux makes this game interesting. @lux read my above theory about dazo if you havent already. I'm getting scum vibes

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Hmm... :

1st of all @Lux SK DOES have the option of no kills soo....yeaaaaaaaah it's still there so we WILL most likely make it to day 2 unless there's a student that decides to side with mafia.
But again what you said is true,if a mislynch were to happen I prefer it being on day 1 as well...sooooooo...I'mma go all out for discussing a lynch.
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Anyway....fine Lux you got me to go aggro ^.^
FoS Dan: There's that list that I kinda dislike,specially cause I am up there xdI have a feeling that's a way to gain mine&Lux's trust cause I..don't feel deserved of that lean towards town specially duo to my history as Lux said :3


FoS Lux: Not exactly a big if but...what IF Dan IS mafia and he tried to uhh...group me with you making me feel less scummy towards you,not to mention you kinda followed it as well...


And last but not least:
FoS Dazo: Well...pretty much for the reasons Crims said,specially with the "plan" and the fact that he didn't seem hesitant to reveal his role while a real power role wouldn't exactly trust someone else so easily with their role at day 1(even a citizen shouldn't imo @Debi ) so bascally if he's not a citizen he's likely to be evil imo...


I'mma lynch one of the 3 pretty soon just give me more time to re-read stuff.

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Also here is another theory. Why isnt dan telling us what role dazo is now? The info has been spilled. It's simple actually, if dan reveals what dazo is, that would hurt dan. Guessing dazo is mafia from this standpoint and they bluffed the whole ill tell you my role thing. Or he can be a neutral, but ill never buy that he is town.

For now fos on dan and dazo

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CrimsonOverlord wrote:
Also here is another theory. Why isnt dan telling us what role dazo is now? The info has been spilled. It's simple actually, if dan reveals what dazo is, that would hurt dan. Guessing dazo is mafia from this standpoint and they bluffed the whole ill tell you my role thing. Or he can be a neutral, but ill never buy that he is town.

For now fos on dan and dazo

Actually to reveal that info is both vs the rules AND sportsmanship...
Respects towards Dan for choosing to ignore it actually

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Dazo broke the rules, now dan has the benefit of knowing more info than all of us. If he truly is town and this helps us why not tell us as well? Isnt this a handicap now? What if dazo was town and dan mafia, dan now can easily pick the flow of the game.

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Or maybe both of them are Mafia. Just a possibility.

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And faer, I'm not sure do you FoS me for being Mafia, but what are the odds that I am a Mafia player three times in a row? 

Of course, I still might be a neutral. That's another possibility and faction.

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Ofc that was my first theory @lux, read it above why i didny buy the whole "plan"

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Don't worry I've read it DA Mini Mafia #3 (Mafia & Benign win) - Page 5 1554389127

I cover everything. Anyways, this big break in school is about to end so I'm off and I'll see ya in around 4 hours time ^^

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NightBot wrote:
By "role set-up" do you mean what order Night Actions are done in? Or what?

NightBot wrote:
Here is the role setup:

Citizen
Citizen
Doctor
Sheriff
Hidden Town
Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Benign Neutral
Evil Neutral


This botto.

Anyhow, I'm just an idiot, but my "Plan" was hoping ywall weren't idiots if my play was legal. Do I trust Dan? Of course not. Do I trust the town? Yes. Why don't I reveal my role day one to everyone? Well, maybe because I'm not stupid enough to do that. If anything, my "Plan" was my insurance if dan really was maf.

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Lux wrote:
And faer, I'm not sure do you FoS me for being Mafia, but what are the odds that I am a Mafia player three times in a row? 

Of course, I still might be a neutral. That's another possibility and faction.

We don't really take odds here cause a certain someone was Evil Neutral like uhh...every game? :3
But again you being maf is kinda the least likely of the 3 cause my only suspicious on you comes from others' posts.


@Dazo I see nothing wrong with that role setup?
And @CrimsonOverlord he said he's gonna ignore it and if he were not to do that it'd be cheating so I'm pretty sure he will do that,why not just trust him on that one?(sorry if I am defending him too much on this one but I kinda dislike the criticism on him when he says he's gonna ignore it...) 

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I'm not saying anything is wrong with it, I just want it updated in the OP so I don't have go back looking for it in the future.

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