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DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win)

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DanelerH
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #1


What is Mini Mafia?


Spoiler :




Roles


PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!




Town
Spoiler :


Mafia
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Evil Neutrals
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Benign Neutrals
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Order of Operations


This is the order night actions take place in


1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups


Sign ups


BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


1. DanelerH
2. Lux
3. JC the Shadow Hunter
4. CrimsonOverlord
5. faervel
6. Omega Ophion
7. Debi
8. DMK
9. username290

Reserves:
1. 
2.

I will take any number of sign ups with two as the bare minimum. Signups will end on 6/28/16


Prizes

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Last edited by Linda-Senpai on Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:34 pm; edited 15 times in total

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In order:
It can be an indirect save, yes, but let's assume DMK was the other person bussed.  Does xe look "saved" to you?

They're potential killer roles.  We don't necessarily have another killer this game.

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DanelerH wrote:
In order:
It can be an indirect save, yes, but let's assume DMK was the other person bussed.  Does xe look "saved" to you?

They're potential killer roles.  We don't necessarily have another killer this game.

This was in response to Crimson.

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Dan your theory is not correct. Your night action fails when bussed only if other person targetted you as well. DMK couldn't target crims because he was a citizen. 

So far we know these things: 

1.) DMK died, and he was a citizen.
2.) Crims was bussed and his night action failed because the person he targetted also targetted him.

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Ok so up to now we discovered the hidden town role which is the buss driver. Also the way i see it is that, they wanted to save me , but suspected dmk. Also a bussing is not necessarily the case we are explaining. It can really go multiple ways.

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Also lux elaborate on point 2 of your findings,because im damn confused about bussing

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It's simple. You was targetted by the Bus Driver. Your target was also targetted by the Bus Driver, and you was also targetted by another target of the Bus Driver.

In other words: 

Player A (bus driver) targets Player B (you) and Player C (unknown). 

Player B (you) target Player C.

Player C targetted Player C (you).

Hence Player B and C nigth actions failed. @Linda-Senpai can you confirm that actions fail if Player B and C targetted by the Bus Driver?

So moving on crims you are either Neutral, mafia, sheriff or the doctor. This is how things are from my point of view.

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Cause maybe nothing truly happened to them;Here's a full list of roles in >THIS< game that notify you:
Bus driver
Witch(can also not exist)
Dancer(can also not exist)
Kidnapper(can also not exist)
Mafia/killer roles(You die...)

Student(Why would you shout someone's decided to work with you)
Cult Leader(saying you are cult is not much different from saying you are mafia...R.I.P ahmed)


that is all I guess(other town roles can't exist cause apparently last one is bus driver unless you are bluffing...which is unlikely)
So the top 4 are the only that you'd expect people to shout out and none is guaranteed to be in the game.
They can either not exist,have targeted DMK or simply avoided their night action;so I'mma trust the people that say they weren't targeted last one cause there's really no reason to lie.

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Why do you know Crim's night action failed Lux!?

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Correction:

Player C targets Player B (you).*

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Why do you keep forcing that i have a night action lux?

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faervel wrote:
Why do you know Crim's night action failed Lux!?

Because he got notified that he was bussed. If I am right, you do not get notified unless only your night action fails.
CrimsonOverlord wrote:
Why do you keep forcing that i have a night action lux?


Because there is only one Citizen left, and so the chances you being that one are very low. 

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Or do you claim you are citizen Crims?

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A person is notified if he gets bussed only because he gets bussed, not because his night action failed lol

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You'll ALWAYS get notified if you are bused.

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Now I am confused.

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Read bus driver again lux. You always get notified if you get bussed that night

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Are you the bus driver lux? Do you counter claim that?

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The Bus Driver can choose two living people to swap at night other than themself. All night actions performed after the bussing will instead be performed on the other target. The people who are bussed do not have their own night actions redirected unless they target someone else who was bussed. If more than one bussing takes place with some targets identical and some not, they will be performed in a random order. If an even number of busses on the same two people occur, they will fail, and both bussing roles will be notified of this. If a person targets someone bussed and it ends up redirected to them, they will be notified that they killed themself via bussing and the next day it will be revealed that they killed themself via bussing. If a Witch tries to force a Bus Driver to target someone, the first target they list will be bussed with the target the Witch forced them to target.


Where?

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CrimsonOverlord wrote:
Are you the bus driver lux? Do you counter claim that?

What makes you think I am the Bus Driver?

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Lux wrote:
The Bus Driver can choose two living people to swap at night other than themself. All night actions performed after the bussing will instead be performed on the other target. The people who are bussed do not have their own night actions redirected unless they target someone else who was bussed. If more than one bussing takes place with some targets identical and some not, they will be performed in a random order. If an even number of busses on the same two people occur, they will fail, and both bussing roles will be notified of this. If a person targets someone bussed and it ends up redirected to them, they will be notified that they killed themself via bussing and the next day it will be revealed that they killed themself via bussing. If a Witch tries to force a Bus Driver to target someone, the first target they list will be bussed with the target the Witch forced them to target.


Where?

While it doesn't say so, it doesn't say what you said, either.

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"People who are bused will be notified that they were bussed, but not by whom or whom they were bussed with."

It's explained in kidnapper;So that means Crim could be targeted by Kidnapper as well...but it's unlikely unless someone else also claims they were bused cause otherwise I'mma say the other target was DMK.

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People who are bussed will be notified that they were bussed, but not by whom or whom they were bussed with.


here^.
also im just asking a question, not any strong basis really

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Lux wrote:
It's simple. You was targetted by the Bus Driver. Your target was also targetted by the Bus Driver, and you was also targetted by another target of the Bus Driver.

In other words: 

Player A (bus driver) targets Player B (you) and Player C (unknown). 

Player B (you) target Player C.

Player C targetted Player C (you).

Hence Player B and C nigth actions failed. @Linda-Senpai can you confirm that actions fail if Player B and C targetted by the Bus Driver?

So moving on crims you are either Neutral, mafia, sheriff or the doctor. This is how things are from my point of view.

I do not understand your question.

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PEOPLE WHO ARE BUSSED ARE ALWAYS NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE BUSSED

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faervel wrote:
"People who are bused will be notified that they were bussed, but not by whom or whom they were bussed with."

It's explained in kidnapper;So that means Crim could be targeted by Kidnapper as well...but it's unlikely unless someone else also claims they were bused cause otherwise I'mma say the other target was DMK.


Why is that not in the Bus Driver description >.<

And crims, I claim myself not to be the Bus Driver until proven. 

But yeah know I am all confused, so, I also agree that other target could be DMK. Unless someone says they were bussed as well. There are still couple more players in the game that could have been bussed.

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So you passively admit to being buss drive if proven so? Interesting

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Lux wrote:
faervel wrote:
"People who are bused will be notified that they were bussed, but not by whom or whom they were bussed with."

It's explained in kidnapper;So that means Crim could be targeted by Kidnapper as well...but it's unlikely unless someone else also claims they were bused cause otherwise I'mma say the other target was DMK.


Why is that not in the Bus Driver description >.<

And crims, I claim myself not to be the Bus Driver until proven. 

But yeah know I am all confused, so, I also agree that other target could be DMK. Unless someone says they were bussed as well. There are still couple more players in the game that could have been bussed.

IT IS, HOWEVER IT'S IN IT'S OWN PARAGRAPH.

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I need to start reading more carefully :/

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Lol ok lux made me really confused here, sorry i didnt post was drinking/selling wine.

So from my perspective lux is clearly the bus drivur, but i cant be sure, the town is already on disavantage so we really should carefuly at our next action, lets not lynch anyone who we think can potentially be town or at random since we will basically instantly lose.

I cant really say i suspect anyone right now, but we should think our actions carefully.

Also for those wondering i swapped with jc becouse he didnt had enough time

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Yes lux admitted to being buss driver unknowingly. We still have to hear from debi and ophion though.

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