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DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win)

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faervel
CrimsonOverlord
JC the shadow hunter
Lux
DanelerH
username290
Linda-Senpai
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #1


What is Mini Mafia?


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Roles


PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!




Town
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Mafia
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Evil Neutrals
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Benign Neutrals
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Order of Operations


This is the order night actions take place in


1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups


Sign ups


BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


1. DanelerH
2. Lux
3. JC the Shadow Hunter
4. CrimsonOverlord
5. faervel
6. Omega Ophion
7. Debi
8. DMK
9. username290

Reserves:
1. 
2.

I will take any number of sign ups with two as the bare minimum. Signups will end on 6/28/16


Prizes

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Last edited by Linda-Senpai on Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:34 pm; edited 15 times in total

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I'm going to provide my evidence that faervel is a mafia now. 
Consider the fact how faervel called Lux a good, neutral member of this game. The only way for him to know this is via faervel being a sheriff, being lucky with guessing, or being in a night chat with him.

The most obvious night chat would be mafia. There is further evidence as to their being mafia if you consider they had a night chat. Lux claimed to be roleblocked, however there are no neutral roles, or town roles within this round which can role block other than Dancer. Faervel contradicted this, by claiming that instead of a Dancer there was a Janitor. If you go over the fact that Faervel was true, and that instead of a Dancer there WAS a Janitor, then Lux would be lying, he wouldn't have gotten roleblocked, and it trying to hide something. This goes against the fact that it is unbelievably likely that Faervel and Lux are in a night chat. Due to this, faervel is lying, as well as lux is lying. Lux couldn't have been roleblocked, by someone in the mafia, as you can't roleblock yourself, or role block the Godfather. Faervel was lying by claiming Janitor instead of Dancer. Due to all of this it is clear that they are both members of the mafia.

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That is a really convincing case, does faervel have anything to say to the contrary?

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Omega Ophion wrote:
That makes you extremely suspicious as all the town roles have nearly been filled leaving you with neutral or mafia

I'm okay with that.  I guarantee that my post about my role was accurate, though.

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I can't believe that Omega has said that he's the bus driver and everyone believes him. Me and crims both claimed that we were bussed before he said it.. He might have been a mafia player getting an alibi. 

And no, I WASN'T ROLE-BLOCKED, my night action failed. 

And I'm quite sure that @DanelerH is the neutral guy.

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Lux wrote:
I can't believe that Omega has said that he's the bus driver and everyone believes him. Me and crims both claimed that we were bussed before he said it.. He might have been a mafia player getting an alibi. 

That's why I was going to ask on Day 3 who xe bussed before anyone reveals it.  That way, we can get confirmation.

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This is the possible roles of every player alive in my point of view

Faervel: Citizen, Bus Driver, Mafia, Evil Neutral.
Debi: ^All as above.
Crimson: Doctor
username: Sheriff
Daneler: Citizen, Mafia, Evil neutral (my bets are on evil neutral)
Drunkion: Mafia, Evil Neutral, citizen (think he is mafia)
Lux: I am neutral, but I'm no reason to fear at this stage of the game. 
Omega Ophion: Bus Driver, mafia, evil neutral.

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Omega Ophion wrote:
That is a really convincing case, does faervel have anything to say to the contrary?

Of course he does DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win) - Page 11 576792747


1st of all the reason I said we have a Janitor is cause the information on DMK's death wasn't given(which is weird cause the only reason that happens is cause of Janitor but Janitor also hides the person's role...soo...this is just weird...possibly a mistake on Linda's side or we all missed a rulling or something)
But now if you read it through I actually explained that after my post as well after Crim corrected me.


2nd my reasoning for Lux being good still kinda stays unless he's the godfather...don't you guys read? >.>
Too lazy to look for it and quote so I just write it again:Lux is not a mafioso/neutral cause UN290 investigated him instead of Crim...Ophion you of all know people should know that...though don't get me wrong...2nd mafia is obviously Dan/Lux but let's get to the obvious one 1st ^.^


3rd Night chats don't happen during the day...unless you say we cheated and it's roode...

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I got the new message warning and was lazy to delete my alibi...let me read the new stuff...

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Though in Omega's defence he submitted his night action very late, and I was notified that I was bussed just moments before Day 2, so I think that he is most likely the Bus Driver.

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ok, wow this happened 
so debi comes in and presents some strong evidence and i have to say i believe him 
faervel has been pointing fingers  at everyone who has claimed to be good (including crimson) but not me 
maybe because he knows i can find out who he really is with one quick look 
but i don't think i have anything to lynch someone on

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Lux, you do know that not all Neutrals are Evil, right?

Faervel, I stand by my statement that I'm not the second Mafia (or the first), but I don't really feel inclined to give my role.

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DanelerH wrote:
Lux, you do know that not all Neutrals are Evil, right?

Faervel, I stand by my statement that I'm not the second Mafia (or the first), but I don't really feel inclined to give my role.

I know. My mistake. But I'm pretty convinced you are the other neutral.

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Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Lux, you do know that not all Neutrals are Evil, right?

Faervel, I stand by my statement that I'm not the second Mafia (or the first), but I don't really feel inclined to give my role.

I know. My mistake. But I'm pretty convinced you are the other neutral.

wait, we have a first neutral?

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username290 wrote:
Lux wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Lux, you do know that not all Neutrals are Evil, right?

Faervel, I stand by my statement that I'm not the second Mafia (or the first), but I don't really feel inclined to give my role.

I know. My mistake. But I'm pretty convinced you are the other neutral.

wait, we have a first neutral?

Yes. Me.

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Can I just put something out there? Lux just claime he didnt claim he was roleblocked- however:
http://prntscr.com/bnmw9u
DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win) - Page 11 Bnmw9u

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@Lux that defense is overall invalid cause you recieve what happened to you before the day begins anyway(I know that cause of my auto-vest thing 2games ago and the games that happened long before that) but still he has no counter claim so I don't see why he'd need a defense...


@username290 I didn't point fingers at EVERYONE just the people claiming to be citizens...CAUSE THEY CAN'T BE and also with what Lux said Crim's alibi for being a citizen is invalid now but considering he claimed to be the Doc and no one has counter claimed he's safe.


Anyway after reading Lux's post(DAMMIT LUX BE MORE CLEAR NEXT TIME DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win) - Page 11 576792747 ) that means we either don't have a dancer or that he took no night action last night but considering nothing else also happened their role is most likely not a huge threat(I mean what threat can Consigliere have when everyone's already revealed).
Now...still vs Debi...

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Again the laziness thing and...Debi has a point on Lux...he clearly states he was role-blocked...
So even though I feel like he's moving the suspicious away from himself...defends Lux!

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Debi wrote:
Can I just put something out there? Lux just claime he didnt claim he was roleblocked- however:
http://prntscr.com/bnmw9u
DA Mini Mafia#1 (Mafia and Neutrals win) - Page 11 Bnmw9u

I had a problem to discover the differences between the two.

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Faervel I have an argument against your janitor point, there is a role which can kill, not give the method of killing, but can still give the role, which is a witch, so your point is actually invalid, as there is no evidence against a witch, only the person who died knows they were attacked by a witch.

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Ok so have we gathered that I am the bus driver as nobody has jumped to say otherwise and i know that I am and can prove it day 3 if I live so there is no point in lynching me,

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I need to go&take a bath and kinda promised @CrimsonOverlord that I'd wait for him to come back for going on in the game...
Also with 2 people claiming neutral that leaves @Drunkion a mafia unless he comes and role-reveals.
Also just simple neutrals won't do...TELL US YOUR EXACT ROLES IF YOU ARE!
Anyway that is all..I am AFK for 2hours or so...


Edit: @Debi then it's announced that they were killed via witching you should read the role again+they can only cause suicide if the target's a killer role...Considering DMK was a citizen him being witched to target himself won't kill him.

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On the point of Daneler and Lux both being Neutral and neither being evil, I think this is plausible as there wasnt alot of players in this game. So I have no reason for us to attempt a lynch on either of them due to the fact that nobody died via a neutral.

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Actually I'm pretty sure it is as I said, 'If a person kills themselves because a witch forced them to target themself, they will be notified that they killed themself via witching and the next day it will be revealed as a regular kill from that person’s faction.'.


'they will be notified... the next day it will be revealed as a regular kill from that person's faction'
Meaning it is revealed to us as nobody killed him and that he committed suicide but they are notified they got killed by a witch

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Debi wrote:
Faervel I have an argument against your janitor point, there is a role which can kill, not give the method of killing, but can still give the role, which is a witch, so your point is actually invalid, as there is no evidence against a witch, only the person who died knows they were attacked by a witch.

I think that's wrong, actually.  My understanding is the Witch just controls another person.  For example, let's say Player A is a Witch, Player B is the Mafia that is doing the night's killing, and Player C is Player B's target.  If Player A targets Player B, Player B no longer gets to target Player C.  Instead, Player A chooses a target for Player B, such as Player D.  Player B is witched into killing Player D instead and it would show that Player D was killed by the Mafia.

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Despite I'm 120% being honest about being neutral, I'm not revealing my role.

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Omega you are wrong, as I had said a witch would make it appear as they committed suicide not that they where killed by a neutral. Thus if DanelerH and Lux are neutral, lynching one of them is quite important.

Here is what I think for roles:

Citizen: Debi
Sheriff:Username
Doctor: Crimson
Bus Driver: Ophion

Mafias: Lux/Faer

Neutrals: People not listed

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If I am mafia, who do you think would be my partner?

Besides, you were not in past rounds, but some people were. And so far I haven't been lying about my role when I role-revealed. 

I just don't know why Dan ignores our suspection that he is neutral. Maybe he is not at all.

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If you are mafia I believe your partner in crime to be faervel. Also just because you didn't lie in the past doesn't mean your not lying now, just because you have a reputation for telling the truth doesn't mean you will keep it.


Onto a slight tangent here, at the moment there is a very simple thing we can do to close day 2. At the moment in time, both me and faervel claim to be the last citizen. All of the other town roles are taken, and claimed. Therefore it would be logical to lynch either me or faervel. I have put up many arguments about faervel and I stick to my point in all of them. that being that faervel is mafia and that lynching is a good idea.

/Lynch Faervel

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They say that you better be known for telling truth in mafia, rather than telling lies Wink

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Exactly, 'better be known', did you know Einstein is known as a physicist but is bad at his own language?
As I said just because you have a reputation doesn't mean your always going to tell the truth.

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