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DA Mini Mafia #4 (Town+Benign win!)

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Drunkion
Debi
Pepchoninga
Lux
DanelerH
CrimsonOverlord
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First topic message reminder :

DA Mini Mafia #4


What is Mini Mafia?

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Roles:
PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!

Town:

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Mafia:

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Evil Neutrals:

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Benign Neutrals:

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Order of Operations

This is the order night actions take place in:

1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups

BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


Accepted Participants:

1. CrimsonOverlord
2. DanelerH
3. Lux
4. Pepchoninga
5. Debi
6. Drunkion
7. Dazo
8. faervel
9. ZeroPassion
10. YoungX
11. 

12. 
13. 
14. 
15. 

Reserves:
1. 
2.
3.



Prizes

Winners receive 1,500 DP


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My main suspects right now: 
1. Pep
2. Crimson 
3. Skit
4. Dan

Ironically the people who lynched me. If I won't go to the school I'll try to give some longer posts about this.

And just for the record, I'm playing exactly  like I have imagined to.

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Day 1 has ended. No one was lynched. Night 1 has begun, it ends on 10/27/16 around 8PM (GMT-5) or once all night actions have been submitted.

Also, I heard that some were talking about Mafia outside of this thread, so let me just remind you that is not allowed, unless the game has ended. If I hear about it again, you will possibly be modkilled (removed from the game).

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Drunkion (Citizen) was gunned down by the Mafia last night.
Day 2 has begun, it will end on 10/28/16 sometime after 10:00 PM (GMT-5), or once skipped. It takes 5 votes to skip & 5 votes to lock a lynch.

Roles Remaining:

Citizen
Doctor
Sheriff
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Benign Neutral
Evil Neutral

Players Remaining:

@CrimsonOverlord
@DanelerH
@Lux
@Pepchoninga
@Debi
@Dazo
@faervel
@ZeroPassion
@Skitoritto

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@NightBot it's 5 votes to lock the lynch and to skip

Anything happen to anyone last night?

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Nothing happened to me, though I did put some more thought about the little riddle Dan gave us.

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Nothing to me.

Dazo, what riddle?  I thought it was a pretty obvious soft-claim.

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You see it as a riddle, I see it as a riddle. Because it's funner that way.

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ZeroPassion wrote:
@NightBot it's 5 votes to lock the lynch and to skip

My bad, thanks.

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I'm alive!

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Dazo wrote:
Nothing happened to me, though I did put some more thought about the little riddle Dan gave us.


Okay. What did you think about his riddle?

DanelerH wrote:
Nothing to me.

Dazo, what riddle?  I thought it was a pretty obvious soft-claim.


Soft claims, soft claims D:


How do you feel about the wagons from the last phase?

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Nothing happened to me, too. 

I have made a very long post yesterday. However I'll be able to post it only when I get back home un around 9 hours time.

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Also, question. Do lynches from Day 1 stay? 4 on me, 2 on Skit?

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ZeroPassion wrote:

Nothing to me.

Dazo, what riddle?  I thought it was a pretty obvious soft-claim.


Soft claims, soft claims D:


How do you feel about the wagons from the last phase?


I still think Lux and Skit are the most suspicious for the previously mentioned reasons.  If you mean in relation to Drunkion's death, I don't recall anyone being particularly suspicious of xem, but I'm going to have to double-check that.  While I'm at it, I'm going to check who Drunkion was suspicious of.

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I think thar the scum duo didn't kill me because they think they can finish the job on me. @Drunkion didn't want to lynch me, too.

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As for how I saw the riddle, saying the term "innocent" at the time doesn't really mean much. But assuming he means town, he states yes. Judging the Neutral roles, let's interpert the yes as he is something that Mafia would not like that much. So Witches, Serial Killers, Spree Killers, and all of the other Neutral Begin roles that aren't survivor.

Let's take no as something the town doesn't like. Inlcuding the list we got from above we get the same things. However, if he doesn't win with town or mafia, he possibly wins by himself. That takes out a lot of the other roles except Serial Killers, Spree Killers, Executioner.

As for my thoughts on the bandwaggon, Lux created that on purpose. However, what I am still concerned with is if Lux is Vet, is the real sheriff not speaking up on purpose, or is Lux the real sheriff. Because if Lux is using the sheriff claim as bait for someone, wouldn't the real sheriff speak up and shut that down right away?

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Suspicions on Drunkion:
Pep had mild suspicions of Drunkion at the beginning, due to Drunkion stating xe didn't like a Day 1 lynch.
Zero had Drunkion as a null/scum lean, due to Drunkion's opening post.

Drunkions suspicions:
Pep and Crimson because of their attitudes (I think xe's saying that they're bandwagoning in that post).

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Also Dazo, lemme ask a better question:

Do you have any thoughts as to how day 1 ended, disregarding the night kill?

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Lux wrote:
Also, question. Do lynches from Day 1 stay? 4 on me, 2 on Skit?


And no, they don't.

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Let's kick this off. First thing I wanna do in this new Day is to reply to those statements that I only claim „innocent“ in every post in mine. That is incorrect.

And please, let off this very stupid question: „Why are you innocent?“. The answer is going to be the same. I'm innocent because my role belongs to the Town faction. If you read my posts more carefully, you'd see that they have little more depth in themselves than it seems. I actually gave too much clues about my role.


It's pretty obvious why I didn't die tonight. While I could a power-role, I got 4 lynches on me in the Day 1. The scum duo thinks it will be easy to finish the job on the Day 2.

Defence! See, I didn't really go hard on defending myself. That's something I admit. I notice that @Pepchoninga is getting annoyed by my „cocky“ and „over-confident“ behaviour. I'm so confident only because I know that I'm not guilty. Simple as that. @Pepchoninga, you have stated that what I am doing this game so far „is something a total noob would do“. Then why would I do that? You have mentioned many times that you admire me as a player (and that you think I was brilliant in your first game, thanks!), and not only that, but you didn't put much pressure on me only because you think I am a good player and because you think I don't know what I am doing: Tho you are a goodplayer so I'm willing to give you a bit more time. You are still on my list tho.“


I'm not exactly what have you expected to archieve with that post. I think you wanted to scare me. You've began to be more confident in your campaign against me. But why? I think I know why.

Also, @CrimsonOverlord and @Lux are barking at each other without really trying to edge the other person (Yes, I know it's early game but still...), so I think there is a possibility we have our scum duo right here.“


This. I'm taking a shot and I'll accuse you and @CrimsonOverlord to be the scum duo. Why? First you said that it's not the smartest thing to claim innocent this early without additional pressure. In a matter of posts, @CrimsonOvelord went ahead and accussed me of being the Mafia. He has continued to pressure me for a couple of more posts. What happened next in chronological order is, @faervel defended me (saying that I wouldn't play claim innocent again because l got once lynched because of it)  and I put a Finger Of Suspection towards @CrimsonOverlord.
What goes next? You got annoyed by my „cocky“ behaviour. Why? I'm not sure.

Tho for me it is obvious that @Lux is playing a dangerous game and I don't think he knew it was gonna go that way“ 

No. I knew exactly what was coming.  I think you need to check my motives little bit better.

Your arguments against me were pretty much the same for 3-4 pages. You were also calling my arguments and statements dumb and silly. Like you want to discourage me. You wanted to break me, make me admit that I am scum. But it doesn't work like that. I'm not the one who should be looked for. As I have mentioned before, I only have confidence to do something like this because I know I'm talking the truth.
 
Now I'll focus more on finding a connection between you and @CrimsonOverlord. What makes me suspicious of you two is how you have been following each other in pressuring, and then lynching me.

Also, Crimson's arguments behind his lynch against me are ridicilous. „Let's see where this goes“. A Townsfolk doesn't do shit like this. And this isn't really a pressure lynch either. He literally jumped on the bandwaggon. Interesting enough, after @ZeroPassion's post you was kinda surprised. You wanted him to jump on your misslynch, but instead, he has accussed another player and you are slowly changing sides.

But I am going to kinda drop the idea of having you two as the scum duo, because I don't believe myself TOO much in this.

Now let me go do some analyze on the other players. @ZeroPassion is leaning towards Town for me.

@DanelerH? Benign Neutral. Considering his lack of interest in the whole game, I think he's an Executioner.

@Dazo and @faervel are cautios, yet objective. Didn't put much attention to themselves. I think they could be any faction as of now, but I consider them to be Town so far.

@Pepchoninga is my main suspect so far. Not because he was taking a shot on me, but because he has shown bandwaggoning signs and behaviour in the game.

Same thing could be said for @CrimsonOverlord. I still can't figure out how and why would a Townie lynch another player „just to see where it goes“.


So far no opinion on @Debi and @Drunkion (rip Drunkion)

@Skittorito leans toward Evil Neutral for me. But because of lack of stability between his posts I cannot create an opinion on him.

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In the lights of my latest post, I have decided to do the following action:

/lynch Pepchoninga

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Lux wrote:
ZeroPassion is leaning towards Town for me.

DanelerH? Benign Neutral. Considering his lack of interest in the whole game, I think he's an Executioner.

Dazo and faervel are cautios, yet objective. Didn't put much attention to themselves. I think they could be any faction as of now, but I consider them to be Town so far.

Pepchoninga is my main suspect so far. Not because he was taking a shot on me, but because he has shown bandwaggoning signs and behaviour in the game.

Same thing could be said for CrimsonOverlord. I still can't figure out how and why would a Townie lynch another player „just to see where it goes“.


So far no opinion on Debi and Drunkion (rip Drunkion)

Skittorito leans toward Evil Neutral for me. But because of lack of stability between his posts I cannot create an opinion on him.


I'm not gonna deal with the defense reasoning part of your post until I get these questions answered:

Could you explain your Dazo and Faervel reads a bit more in depth? Moreso in the objective part.

Likewise on Pep with the bandwagoning signs, and the behavior part: are you connecting that as bandwagoning behavior, or behavior in general throughout the game?

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Hmm...Well, it certainly was something. The only thing I observed in regards to Day 1 and the bandwaggoners is Peppy. I don't think Peppy is neutral, because he continued to go super agro on Lux, even when he had 4 lynches on him. From being the first person to lynch him. In fact, that whole day Peppy was agro on Lux.

And the fact Crimmy barely contributed to day one makes me concerned

so FoS on Crimmy and Peppy.

This was all before Lux's wall of text, so expect another post shortly afterwards responding to that.

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I'll try to satisfy you with a shorter version of my answer, because I need to get ready for school in any minute. 

@faervel and @Dazo didn't want to side with any of these lynches. Actually, both of them were defending me. Despite that such a behaviour is leaning towards Town for me, they could be doing things like this to win my trust and/or hide their true nature. 

Not exactly sure with your second answer, but I find Pep's behaviour through the whole game bandwaggoning. 

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Lux wrote:
I'll try to satisfy you with a shorter version of my answer, because I need to get ready for school in any minute. 

faervel and Dazo didn't want to side with any of these lynches. Actually, both of them were defending me. Despite that such a behaviour is leaning towards Town for me, they could be doing things like this to win my trust and/or hide their true nature. 

Not exactly sure with your second answer, but I find Pep's behaviour through the whole game bandwaggoning. 


Define bandwaggoning, please.

And only respond when you actually have time to do so, instead of the short version stuff so you're actually focused.

I am going to bed now.

NO ONE LOCK ANY LYNCH AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME!

I shouldn't have to say this, but I'm going to to make sure it's stuck in your heads.

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I forgot that Crimmy said "let's lynch Lux just to see what happens." and that I put a FoS on him then. Doesn't participate that much from what I recall, lynches for the sake of lynching cause he wants to see what happens. I am actually leaning quite closely to lynching Crimmy, but I wanna see what he has to say in response to everything that was said. I find it hard to believe he's a role that benefits the town.

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By "defining bandwaggoning" I actually mean, do you think @Pepchoninga would go that aggressive and far on me if there was no pressuring from @CrimsonOverlord before it? I don't think so.

I'll try and find more bandwaggoning signs when I get home.

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Skitoritto has asked to be taken out of the game, as he doesn't have the time to effectively participate, but I'd like to see if I can find a replacement before day 2 ends, so if anyone knows of someone who could be his replacement, tell me.

@CrimsonOverlord
@DanelerH
@Lux
@Pepchoninga
@Debi
@Dazo
@faervel
@ZeroPassion

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Now, seems I missed quit a bit of stuff. I don't really have much time but I will try to give my opinion on some of the things that happened.


For for my defence. About your bandwagoning shit? Yeah, I would like you to give me an exact reason on why what I did is bandwagoning. I barked at you at the very beginning of the game. Then I created a little theory more to see the response you give me and to kick start the discussions. Your response (which unfortunately I cannot quote atm, but will do later" probably started me wanting to push on you. While Crimson wasn't out of the picture, he wasn't that active in the discussion, so I tryed to pressure you. And during the duration of Day 1 I was asking for the simple reason why if you are town and posibly a power role, why are you trying to gain so much attention and suspicion? You claims, while absurd were not really the reason why I was almost going solely after you. It was the way you defended them and some of your later posts. Things like "Drop it with the suspicions or I will turn this around" (or something along those lines) or "I'm town for reasons I cannot curently say"...yeah well this for me doesn't seem like a very sheriffy stuff to say. And yes, what I got from your posts was you were claiming sheriff. Which is a dumb move since it wasn't so hard to see it and you basically exposed probably the most important role to the eyes of the mafia. Then why weren't you killed? Why @Drunkion was killed when he wasn't that much into the game because of his reasons. I would think that a mafia will go for you, mostly since you are usually very active and can thus create problems and try to expose them. But no, a simple town that wasn't very active was killed. I would say this gives me an even bigger reason to think you are mafia. Killing a member who wasn't very active would be better for you since if you tryed to kill me it would be way to suspicious. Now this, along with you waisting little to no time to hit on me again since you couldn't kill me in the night are pretty commanding theories imo. @Lux

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Since I have to go to school I will post things I think on other people when I get back from school.


I will say that @ZeroPassion 's eager to wait him and to lock any lynches is a bit suspicious to me. 

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Pepchoninga wrote:
And yes, what I got from your posts was you were claiming sheriff. Which is a dumb move since it wasn't so hard to see it and you basically exposed probably the most important role to the eyes of the mafia. Then why weren't you killed? Why @Drunkion was killed when he wasn't that much into the game because of his reasons. I would think that a mafia will go for you, mostly since you are usually very active and can thus create problems and try to expose them. But no, a simple town that wasn't very active was killed. I would say this gives me an even bigger reason to think you are mafia. Killing a member who wasn't very active would be better for you since if you tryed to kill me it would be way to suspicious. Now this, along with you waisting little to no time to hit on me again since you couldn't kill me in the night are pretty commanding theories imo. @Lux
Nice attempt at a night kill analaysis. However, there's one problem with this Peppy. This is what we call a gambit. Gambits don't work when your bluff get's called. And that is exactly what I am doing.

/Lynch Pepchoninga

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