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DA Matrix6 Mafia #1 (GAME OVER)

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CrimsonOverlord
Wingshine
kyosuke kiryu
TricMagic
Alisae
DanelerH
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First topic message reminder :

Player list:
1:  Debi
2:  TricMagic
3:  CrimsonOverlord
4:  Pepchoninga
5:  Alisae
6:  Linda-Senpai
7:  Wingshine
8:  jjh927
9:  Kyosuke Kiryu

Game rules:
1) All decisions come down to a democracy. The moderator gets 9 votes.
2) Please place your votes using the following code. While using bold tags to place your vote is okay, using the following would be prefered. Your vote will not get counted if it's not bolded.:

Code:

<span style="background-color: #FFFFFF"><strong>[color=#000000]VOTE:[/color]</strong></span>
<span style="background-color: #FFFFFF"><strong>[color=#000000]UNVOTE[/color]</strong></span>

3) Lynches will occur when one player has received the majority of votes. You may post during the twilight period between the hammer and the closing of the thread.
4) If unsufficient votes are made on any player, or a majority of votes have been made to no lynch, no lynch will be made.
5) Nights will last 48 hours.
6) Do NOT quote any private communication from me, nor any mason, scum, neighbour, or anything topics that may or may not exist. You may paraphrase, just don't copy it wholesale.
7) You MAY NOT discuss the game outside of the thread unless your role specifically gives you the ability to do so. (The acception to this is the Scum PT).
8 ) Days will last 4 irl days, or until a lynch (or no lynch) has been decided on.
9) Blue (#0099ff) is my color. Refrain from using it.
10) If I am for whatever reason unable to continue moderating this, @Lux or @NightBot will take my place.
11) Death is final, but a single contentless "bah!" post will be permitted.  Just make sure it has no content in said post.
12) The rules can be arbitrarily changed/added to by one party (me) anytime I am feeling greedy and/or evil.
13) Players not use factional and individual actions simultaneously unless their role PM explicitly says otherwise.
14) This setup is non-bastard.
15) Be nice, and try to enjoy yourself. BTW I'll send prods every 24-48 hours. Something like that.
16) I definitely did not steal this from Alisae.

Setup Information:
1) The setup is confirmed as having 7 Town-Aligned players and 2 Scum-Aligned players.
2) The setup is Matrix6.  For more information, please view the sign-up thread or the following link:  Matrix6
 A B C
1 Jailkeeper VT Goon
2 Roleblocker Cop Doctor
3 1-shot BP Townie Goon Tracker
I am sending out role PMs now.  Once you have confirmed your role, you may begin playing.

Living :


Dead :


Potential Power Roles :


Last edited by DanelerH on Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:32 pm; edited 13 times in total

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Hey guys.
Let's ignore Dan and Alisae.

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DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
kyosuke kiryu wrote:
Also, next time don't allow self voting like debi did

Agreed 100%. Self voting is pointless, dumb, and very poor sportsmanship
Frustrated townies also do it, but when they do do it it's too late by then.

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.

How is it poor sportsmanship? If Town does so, yes, but if Mafia does so, it's a strategy to allow for less Town discussion.

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.
Scum want shorter days and to quick lynch.
Town want to attempt to use as much time as they need to discuss and scumhunt.
By selfhammering as scum, they get rid of this time that town needs to discuss and scumhunt.

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DanelerH wrote:
Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.

How is it poor sportsmanship?  If Town does so, yes, but if Mafia does so, it's a strategy to allow for less Town discussion.

Look at what Debi did this game. Allowing self lynching for such an extremely minimal and situational advantage that it gives the mafia is absurd.

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.

How is it poor sportsmanship?  If Town does so, yes, but if Mafia does so, it's a strategy to allow for less Town discussion.

Look at what Debi did this game. Allowing self lynching for such an extremely minimal and situational advantage that it gives the mafia is absurd.
If scum does it how is it poor sportsmanship?

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Linda. Town selfhammering is bad. We get it.
This isn't what we're argueing here.

We're argueing why it's okay for SCUM to self hammer.

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Linda, I agree that what Debi did was terrible sportsmanship. Why should that warrant banning the mechanic when it can be used for its proper purpose?

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Alisae wrote:
Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Linda-Senpai wrote:
DanelerH wrote:
Self-voting is fine if you're self-hammering as Mafia since it ends the Day early to allow less time for Town to discuss.  Town should not have a reason to self-vote.  That was Debi's own fault.

No, it's just all around poor sportsmanship.

How is it poor sportsmanship?  If Town does so, yes, but if Mafia does so, it's a strategy to allow for less Town discussion.

Look at what Debi did this game. Allowing self lynching for such an extremely minimal and situational advantage that it gives the mafia is absurd.

If scum does it how is it poor sportsmanship?

I'm not talking about if scum does that, I'm saying that that's a very miniscule reason to keep such an unsportsman move legal. Whenever I hosted, self-lynching was not allowed, and it was not allowed on Marriland either.

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Linda talk to me about where you came from and your mafia experience. Because I think your sense of normalcy is different from mine.

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Like, if possible can you give me as much details as possible? Thanks :D

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Alisae wrote:
Linda talk to me about where you came from and your mafia experience. Because I think your sense of normalcy is different from mine.

Yes, I believe it's been established that our experiences with mafia are far difference. I played at Marriland before stupid drama hit the fan there. Day 1 lynching did not exist there. Self lynching did not exist there. I don't know what else you want me to say

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
Alisae wrote:
Linda talk to me about where you came from and your mafia experience. Because I think your sense of normalcy is different from mine.

Yes, I believe it's been established that our experiences with mafia are far difference. I played at Marriland before stupid drama hit the fan there. Day 1 lynching did not exist there. Self lynching did not exist there. I don't know what else you want me to say
Talk to me about what set ups usually look like, and what were the mod pratices. Like did mods when modding their games just do flips and process actions? Did they occasionally provide a votecount?

Also what were the other players like there?

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Alisae wrote:
Linda-Senpai wrote:
Alisae wrote:
Linda talk to me about where you came from and your mafia experience. Because I think your sense of normalcy is different from mine.

Yes, I believe it's been established that our experiences with mafia are far difference. I played at Marriland before stupid drama hit the fan there. Day 1 lynching did not exist there. Self lynching did not exist there. I don't know what else you want me to say

Talk to me about what set ups usually look like, and what were the mod pratices. Like did mods when modding their games just do flips and process actions? Did they occasionally provide a votecount?

Also what were the other players like there?

You should prob just read the games I played there that I shared here as a referrence. Just if you do, note that I acted extremely trolly there because I dont know why I did that shit lol. Shared the best games I had when I won MVP and best citizen nd shit there tho

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I just necrobumped the thread if you've never seen it

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Ah okay I'll read those later. Tho I'm fairly bad at reading games. Just a heads up.

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Alisae wrote:
kyosuke kiryu wrote:
Also, next time don't allow self voting like debi did

If I didn't die, I was going to post this going into D3
Yo I wrote this overnight.

DO NOT EVER SELFHAMMER AS TOWN JESUS FUCKING CRIST THATS WHAT WE CALL GAMETHROWING.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT HAVING FUN IN A GAME JUST REPLACE OUT
IT'S THAT EASY.

Tho as scum you can selfhammer. By selfhammering as scum what you are doing is you are ending the discussion early so town has less time to hunt. I selfhammer as scum sometimes when I know my lynch is inevitable. Less time for town to discuss things the better.

But in all seriousness, Debi selfhammering and thinking he nailed scum was a dick move. But that's okay, apparently I'm the worthless anti-town trash that doesn't deserve to have a voice. And he didn't even nail scum, his CC means nothing.
But hey, my opinion doesn't matter.
So I'm going to place this vote here.
And catchup
VOTE: Kyosuke


Tl;dr Selfhammering as scum is fine. Selfhammering as town is gamethrowing. Don't do it UNLESS YOUR DEATH MEANS SOMETHING. As town you should ALWAYS be fighting back against your lynch.

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Jj, I tracked you, since I didn't like how you agreed with almost everything Ali said. I was sceptical of the strategy and since day 1 had somewhat of a god blessed ending and nothing to really go from I decided you were my best bet.

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Pepchoninga wrote:
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Pep. I was litterally frustrated, deathtunneled town that game with super bad reads.

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LIKE FUCK I'M EMBRASSED BY THAT GAME

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Pepchoninga wrote:
Jj, I tracked you, since I didn't like how you agreed with almost everything Ali said. I was sceptical of the strategy and since day 1 had somewhat of a god blessed ending and nothing to really go from I decided you were my best bet.
tbh this makes sense I guess.

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Pep I should give you some games where the strat worked and payed off.
It nearly breaks Matrix6

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No it doesn't! Pep, if you were sceptical of the strategy then why didn't you bring up any more concerns regarding it? And do you still have any concerns?

You can't be sceptical of something without actually having doubts.

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That's a response to you saying that reasoning makes sense, not you saying it breaks matrix6.

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jjh927 wrote:
No it doesn't! Pep, if you were sceptical of the strategy then why didn't you bring up any more concerns regarding it? And do you still have any concerns?

You can't be sceptical of something without actually having doubts.
You got a point here but here's what I think Pep was trying to convey.
He thought you were scum nodding along with everything I say and because of that he tracked you because he thought you would do the kill.
But it's okay we can agree to disagree here.

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so, are we decided on next game?

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Well, we've got four offers to host. Pep and Tric feel like hosting, but don't mind waiting. Alisae wants to host to try a specific setup, but doesn't mind waiting. jj wants to host a bastard game, but doesn't know how much interest there will be.

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and I want to play in a mini mafia

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Linda-Senpai wrote:
and I want to play in a mini mafia
tbh what you call a mini is what I call a Micro (9 or less players) and your specific set up is role madness (somewhatish) which basicly means a lot of PRs. Usually a mini to me is 10-13 players but meh it's whatever I'm down for whatever (I just want to review the set up if the set up is open).

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