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DA Mini Mafia #4 (Town+Benign win!)

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faervel
Alisae
Drunkion
Debi
Pepchoninga
Lux
DanelerH
CrimsonOverlord
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DA Mini Mafia #4


What is Mini Mafia?

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Roles:
PLEASE BE SURE TO READ OVER EVERY ROLE! THERE'S A TON OF NEW ROLES AND PLENTY OF ROLES ARE DIFFERENT HERE THAN IN WOLF MAFIA!

Town:

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Mafia:

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Evil Neutrals:

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Benign Neutrals:

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Order of Operations

This is the order night actions take place in:

1. Jailor jails target
2. Night chats open up
3. Commuter leaves Town
4. Veteran goes on alert
5. Dancers block
6. Crier cries
7. Witch witches
8. Bus Driver/Kidnapper switch targets
9. Watcher/Stalker sets up
10. Survivor uses vest
11. Bodyguard guards
12. Spree Killer sets up
13. Jailor/Executioner executes
14. All other kills
15. Doctor saves
16. Framing
17. Auditor
18. Investigations (sheriff, executioner, watcher, etc.)
19. Cleaning
20. Gunsmith hands out gun
21. Coroner
22. Graverobbing
23. Thievery
24. Cult recruit
25. Mason recruit
26. Amnesiac chooses role
27. Student chooses mentor
28. Cult Suicides


Sign Ups

BEFORE SIGNING UP, PLEASE ASK YOURSELF "Do I have enough time to actively post during the day phase, at least three times a day, and submit my night action ever night?" If the answer is no, you might want to sit this game out or sign up as a reserve.


Accepted Participants:

1. CrimsonOverlord
2. DanelerH
3. Lux
4. Pepchoninga
5. Debi
6. Drunkion
7. Dazo
8. faervel
9. ZeroPassion
10. YoungX
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Reserves:
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Prizes

Winners receive 1,500 DP


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Really I have explained why I investigated Dan and that gets ignored and my investigation simply gets called weird and unlogical. 

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Yeah, you say that you did it because he is your biggest threat, but you also said his seemed disinterested. I'm sorry Lux, I'm just not understanding it.

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But I have explained like 2 pages ago those two reasons >.< 

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Anyhow, I'm curious to see what @YoungX has to say. Considering he was just subbed in, usually when those kinds of things happen, the new blood tends to find something that everyone else just forgot about or didn't take into consideration.

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He'll need time to catch up thou

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Also Lux, did Peppy ask me a question? Because last I checked, he asked me why I'm defending you, I responded, and he thinks I never responded to him after that. I dunno if I'm just blind or somethin.

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No, it's what he's been doing for like last 4 pages. He's claiming that we don't answer his questions, when there is like - none. 

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He's repeating the same things over and over again. 

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K got back so ye.

Current thoughts on this:
Zeropassion is always kinda luring the attention away from lux. He agrees with the most part, then takes the bullet to another person.

Also here is another thing. Since sheriff is so important to town, have you considered the real sheriff not counter claiming because they still wanna aid town and not die here? The real sheriff should feel no pressure atm as lux is getting attacked by many and is the most potential lynch. 
If the actual sheriff were to counterclaim now, they wouldnt live to see day 3.

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This is awkward, but if the only way to prove that I really am the Sheriff is for me to get lyched, then let it be.

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Last time I checked the doctor still hasn't died yet

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Lux wrote:
Really I have explained why I investigated Dan and that gets ignored and my investigation simply gets called weird and unlogical. 

Maybe because there are unlogical. We would think you would actually try and find evidence for what you think is the biggest threat to TOWN as a whole, not only you. Do you think that @DanelerH is the biggest treat to town? 


But ok, your doings (or lies). Thing is this investigation didn't help us at all, so In the end you didn't investigated the right person. Maybe if you did and gave us usefull information about uis person we wouldn't be in this never ending argument. 


Not for my last question. Let's say I belive your claims...who would you investigate during Night 2 if you survive and more importantly, why? 
Dazo wrote:
Also Lux, did Peppy ask me a question? Because last I checked, he asked me why I'm defending you, I responded, and he thinks I never responded to him after that. I dunno if I'm just blind or somethin.

@Dazo, you and @Lux are just irritating me with this lol. Not everything has to end in a question mark to be an answer. I pumped up theories on you and gave evidence which had in mind to provoke your thinking to see if you are gonna confirm them. With you ignoring that (Just like @Lux for most of the game saying that I repeat the same thing lol) you just give me more reasons to think you are scum. 


Also, you 2 seem to have an awful lot of understanding in your posts. Asking questions to each other also fills my theories and suspicions. 
Lux wrote:
No, it's what he's been doing for like last 4 pages. He's claiming that we don't answer his questions, when there is like - none. 

Lawl, same thing here thh. I have asked you question. Some of them you have ignored some of them you have answered with hostility and with alot of bluffing. You are igniring my theories, trying to shut me from the game saying what I think as weak accusations, since I'm probably one of the most active players which gives you offence. 
Lux wrote:
He's repeating the same things over and over again. 

And no, if you read my posts carefully you will see that I always add new things to my theories and accusations depending on the way you play since my last post. So no, I'm no repeating what I say ofer and over again except if I'm not specifically asked to do that, like @Dazo did. 
CrimsonOverlord wrote:
K got back so ye.

Current thoughts on this:
Zeropassion is always kinda luring the attention away from lux. He agrees with the most part, then takes the bullet to another person.

Also here is another thing. Since sheriff is so important to town, have you considered the real sheriff not counter claiming because they still wanna aid town and not die here? The real sheriff should feel no pressure atm as lux is getting attacked by many and is the most potential lynch. 
If the actual sheriff were to counterclaim now, they wouldnt live to see day 3.

Yes, I totally agree. The sheriff is not someone that would like to be a known figure, more wanting to be unseen and smartly give information depending on there investigation during the night and influence the way of the game going to ultimately help town win. 


Seeing that almost nobody is really bying @Lux 's sheriff claim (exept @Dazo who is doing this blindly, just because he doesn't see anybody else counter claiming, which with the point that you gave and some other poeple did before you should be enough to make him think twice tbh) 


So @Dazo, another question. After what @CrimsonOverlord said about why the sheriff wouldn't like to counter claim at this moment, do you still want to defend @Lux?
Lux wrote:
This is awkward, but if the only way to prove that I really am the Sheriff is for me to get lyched, then let it be.

No @Lux, you can also prove it if you live and actually help town in Day 3...if you don't get killed. Tbh, I would suggest you try and convince us of how good are your claims since if you are not lying, you could get teough the night and really help town in Day 3.

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Let me quote this for the third time.
Dazo wrote:
I swear I added another reason as to why I'm defending Lux besides thinking that he's actually sheriff.
Dazo wrote:
Anyhow, I was thinking more about Lux and his sheriff claim. And now I am going to answer "Why are you defending Lux?" Well, I don't want to risk losing a sheriff, so I waited for a counter claim. But that never happened, so I also want to add this factor in: I had too. I mean, wouldn't it just look wierd if I suddenly turned on the person I've been defending this whole game? I mean, I'm starting to understand now why Lux is possibly not sheriff. Why would he list who he could possibly investigate? Does he want a Framer to fuck him up? Why did he investigate Dan over Peppy or Crimmy? He claims he was being pressured a lot by Dan, but he also claims that Dan is exe because of how uninterested Dan is in the game. And I don't remember the last time Dan added something to the discussion.

And maybe the sheriff claim is real to a degree. I mean, a Consig is a possibility.

Basicly, if I were to stop defending him, it would make me seem like in a very awkward position. And I can't just add a lynch to him, that would make me even more suspiscious then I already am. I was tunneling in the fact that I thought Lux was sheriff, but now I'm considering the possibilities as to why he couldn't be.
Does this answer any of your questions Peppy.

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To be honest, Pep, I'm not sure how much energy I have to continue defend myself. But I'll try to continue doing so because I don't want Town to lose this game.



Not for my last question. Let's say I belive your claims...who would you investigate during Night 2 if you survive and more importantly, why? 



To be honest once again, I have not really been thinking about that. There's multiple players I'd like to investigate. 

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Yes, to a degree. Sorry I didn't see that, I haven't been paying much attention in the last day or so, since I had a big concert and now am off to a piano competition, so my time is limited so I try to get to the point quickly. 


All of this seems nice and all, but this still doesn't answer the question why you were defending him in the first place? 


Also, now that you start to doubt his sheriff claim don't you find him suspicious enough to go for a lynch or at least a more offensive attitude against him? 


And finally how do I know you are not just saying this to try and slip away from us posibly connecting the dots to you 2 being the scum duo? 


And even after all that, you still refuse to comment on my theories on you 2. Is it intentionally or can't I explain what I want from you well enough >.< 

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@Lux you are not helping town in any way. I truly would like to give a chance to redeem yourself in my eyes even tho I said it is probably imposible. Only thing I can do is help you. Just like every town member. But for that you need to stop looking like a scum. 


You have already said you are the sheriff. You would be the shitiest sheriff if you don't have a plan. So please enlighten us who you would investigate and why. 

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If me and Dazo really were the scum duo we'd make the worst scum duo ever because the scum duo simply doesn't play like this. Mafia doesn't like attention. And I'm having attention since the beginning of the game. Simply doesn't make sense. 

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So @dazo you are trying to save your own skin? Well you are entitled to your opinion anyway. @faervel @zeropassion @debi @danelerh Would like to know what you guys think so far.

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Pepchoninga wrote:
@Lux you are not helping town in any way. I truly would like to give a chance to redeem yourself in my eyes even tho I said it is probably imposible. Only thing I can do is help you. Just like every town member. But for that you need to stop looking like a scum. 


You have already said you are the sheriff. You would be the shitiest sheriff if you don't have a plan. So please enlighten us who you would investigate and why. 


Of course I've been thinking who to investigate. But I haven't made my mind who to investigate just yet. 

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And I think that niney will forever be the shittiest manager DA Mini Mafia #4 (Town+Benign win!) - Page 14 1554389127 

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Yeah it's all becoming a one sided discussion :/ 


Anyways, yeah @Lux but in mafia there is no "they simply don't play like this". It has been said if you can manipulate people well enough and get trough tough situation you can play like the biggest clown in the world. You being still alive is a living example of that. Until this theory is proven otherwise you cannot bluff me with those kind of comments.

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But I know I can't manipulate with people that good. 


And everything else beside what I've already said (pretty much nothing) about me and bote making the scum duo is that we are not the scum duo. 


And I have chosen to play like this today with a purpose. I know it might (probably will) hurt town at the end but I have chosen this style of playing for a reason because of the last game. 

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We are going in circles really and if lux really is innocent, then i bet the actual mafia is dancing in joy. We can't deduce anyone else because lets face it, some are being completely afk

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CrimsonOverlord wrote:

I am kinda still waiting for @ZeroPassion 's answer to my question for further deductions...

And I really dislike Pep's continued tunnel on Lux even after this DA Mini Mafia #4 (Town+Benign win!) - Page 14 576792747
Doc is alive if there's no counter claim it usually means there's none.

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Doc is alive but ya know doc can only protect one hit

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@faervel, I'm taking a different parth on @Lux as you may see. He just doesn't seem ti want to cooperate. 


We can't expect a counter claim with a claim si absurd and when the self-pronouned won't give his plans and thoughts on the game...if anything, he will most likely die in the night, so at least we can use his way of thinking and what he would do.  


Since he doesn't do anything and keeps circling over those questions, the real sheriff (if there is one) has no reason to come out and counter-claim. 

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But I have answered you, I haven't been thinking too much about who to investigate so far. I have couple of options so far. 


And you are still tunneling me down :/ 

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The only way you can change your mind is to force yourself to. I cannot do that, and neither can anyone else. You gonna believe what you wanna believe. 

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Am I dumb? Cuz you make me look like a stupid idiot...


Ok, what are those couple of people...Cmon, like you are the sheriff (you imply to be). You say you playstyle is thought trough yet you haven't game much thinking on who to investigate...I think I know you a bit to well to know you already have a plan for everything. 


You just don't want us to...or maybe you don't have anything to say....


No, this turm - tunneling - that @ZeroPassion gave was for me just a fruit of him not understanding what I did to you. It is constant pressure. This is used to make a person annoyed and see how they are going to react in a more extensive period of time. I am continuing this since even tho I try and give you the benefit of the doubth, you are in no way wanting to cooperate. 


Also, come on people, come and join else we are going to have another lynchless day...

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My plan so far is to investigate (if I'd be able to) either:


@ZeroPassion - Something is telling me he's not Town
@Pepchoninga - I want to see is my suspection towards you right or not.
@Debi - because of his Citizen claim. 

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