DA Wolf Mafia #4 (Town Wins)

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1. Pepochoninga
2. DanelerH
3. Lux
4. niney16
5. CrimsonOverlord
6. faervel
7. username290
8. Drunkion




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Members of the winning faction will receive 1500 DP each. (You do not have to be alive at the end of the game to win unless you're the Wolf).

Last edited by Linda-Senpai on Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:17 am; edited 8 times in total

DanelerH wrote:

@niney16, @CrimsonOverlord, and @username290, we need your input, especially on the lynch.  Pep looks like xe isn't going to change xyr vote and I doubt Drunkion will vote to lynch xemself.  If we want to lynch someone today, we need to do so within about four hours (I think).

Yeah and that's 4-5 AM for me...even though I am usually online until that time, I was planning to go to sleep around 3 in the morning tonight because I'm tired af 


Pep when will you go to sleep? We don't want you to slip away.


Lynches are still like this btw:


Drunkion = 2 lynches (Lux, DanelerH)


Pepchoninga = 1 lynch (Pepchoninga)

Ok this is looking pretty weird to be honest, like dan reason to lynch me was ridicolous, if i give my tought of who the doctor is im not giving him away, its just an opinion im not 100% sure lol, pretty stupid reason to lynch me.

Also you guys keep saying who is who but you never speak about yourself right Dan? you have been talking like town the whole game but never tried to defend it, in the way i see it you are most defenetely not town and you look like a wolf.

I really can be 100% about lux, but the problem is that this game right now is being played by 4 people so i really cant know.

I cant know if you and lux are mafia and the wolf and doctor are afk. Its hard.

But one thing im sure, you and crimson arent town.

So my lynch goes to crimson

/lynch crimsonoverlord


I was suspicious of pep just the way he said it but now we both realized why we were conflicted we both tought we were the last town if the doctor wants to win this game it should get along with 2 resting active players for town.

I mean no one else said they were town or speaked, I think Dan felt pressured when i said he was wolf that's the real reason for a lynch, not something like "You said who the doctor is", What i say is in no way equal to the real thing, its just my opinion.

I accussed Dan for being the Wolf (or scum, I don't remember) once and I have my eyes on him since then.


He sounds wolf-ish to me. But tbh, my thoughts are little bit lost atm...


And come on guys, Crimson may log-in, but I'm sure there is a reason why he is unable to post. It's Crimson we are talking about, he has never avoided posting in Mafia thread (even when he was scum!). Cowardly move like that is just not in Crimson's style. 


And if you think I'm defending him, I do, but I have been insisting multiple times this game to wait for counter-claim. 


BUT, I'm not entirely sure do we have time to wait for Crimson's counter-claim...and I really want to hear that one...


But there is a possibillity (a lame one, and the one we should not count on) that Linda comes late too. Happened a few times already this game, but as I have said, we should not count on that.


So...um...yea, I'm very lost at the moment and I feel like this is the moment when we must lynch by our insticts, which is always bad.


Though, I am afraid our lynch will not go through today, considering the fact that we got only couple of hours left, and that puts us in really, really bad position. I'm afraid the worst thing is gonna happen, no lynch. And I still don't know why was Pep so dodgy with his lynch. 


I feel desperate at the moment 

Ok, crimson cant log in DA right now, i talked to him, altough that's not my reason for the lynch, my reason is that he acted weird as fuck the moment he talked.

For my defence all i can say is i made a mistake by claiming becouse i tought i was the last one, why? Linda ussualy draws a line on top of dead people, this time she just removed faer so i didnt realize there were 2 citizens left.

In my opinion we must lynch someone, if niney doesnt show up i will ask Linda to extend day 2 and replace niney becouse we seriously need a sheriff here.

For now im willing to lynch either Crimson becouse of his weird attitude of trying to get a random lynch.
Or Dan since in my eyes he most definetely a wolf.

Username is suspicious becosue he tried to random lynch but with such a low activity its hard to tell.

Linda we would like to extend the time of day 2 since we have been only 4 people playing so its kinda hard to take a descision, thanks

I agree.  I time extension would be very helpful (along with maybe a player substitution since Username apparently doesn't want to play anymore and Niney isn't posting, despite her saying that she would).

I'm just a sheriff and I don't know about the first night.

Niney what you did during night one? you didnt investigate anyone?

niney16 wrote:

I'm just a sheriff and I don't know about the first night.

Niney, the Sheriff's role is to investigate one person each Night.  You clearly know this as you mentioned it at the beginning of Day 2.  Who did you investigate on Night 1?

I wasn't there in the first night Dan.

I'm sorry.

I couldnt access the page at all yesterday. It just wouldn't load. 

Now then, the argument that im mafia because i couldnt reply is weak imo. Next, i thoroughly explained my theory on the mafia duo. It's not weird at all, yet fark insists it is ofc cuz panic. Pep played the usual oh well gg im town so you guys messed up card. Very typical moves under pressure. 

I still will stand by my opinion that fark and pep are evil roles.

Im always suspicious for everything i say. I'll go ahead and lynch then 

/lynch pepchoninga.

Niney isnt as smart as you think, she is very young so.
You also change your ideas based on what the majority says to fit in. If most say something, you go along with it trying to blend in. I gave my defense. The only defense you gave is that you are trying to experiment and find a playstyle. Out of all the players here atm i find you and fark the most bandwaggony tier kinda group so yeh i wanna vote you guys, but you for now drunkion doesnt have many against him.

I find it odd that Crimson was the only one who couldn't load the site, but I'm willing to believe that he might be telling the truth.  For now, I'm going to say that xe is undecided/leaning Mafia.

Drunkion, my suspicions on you have lowered, as well.  You're still suspicious in my eyes, but you aren't at the top of the list.  I don't think a Mafia or Wolf would want to extend the Day, but I could also see it as a ploy to gain trust.

For now, I think the most suspicious one is Pep.  While I don't have anything new on you, there is more evidence against you than there is anyone else.

I also noticed that inconsistency when I was going back over the thread.  I haven't finished going back over it, but I'll let you know what I find when I'm done.  May I ask what makes me the Wolf, though?

I agree with lux dan is wolfish, in my opinion is the way you played it, you are most definetely no mafia, but neither a town, you are looking for blood, but at the same time searching for mafiosos, this is what makes me think you are neither

Well i was into lynching you becouse basically i tought i was the last citizen, already explained all this pep.

On the other hand i already said way before lux said this, that in my eyes Dan is a wolf, and it has been for a long time.

Im falling to see why im not giving explanations lol, i tought you were most defenetely mafia becouse i tought there were 3 towns left.

Me, doctor and sheriff, but after i realized what happened, i have began to trust you. that's it

DanelerH wrote:

We're missing a kill.  Either the Wolf chose not to target anyone (which would have been pointless) or the Wolf hit the same target as the Doctor.  Was anyone healed last night?

DanelerH wrote:

Of course I want to know things.  Mafia is a game of the uninformed majority (Town) vs the informed minority (Mafia).  The more information Town has, the better our position is.

Lux wrote:

Daaaaaaan! You seem aggressive today, don't you? 


I have to admit, you play very, very cleverly, and smartly too. 


But I think know who the Wolf is. 


/lynch DanelerH

So, um, yea. Dan was the first one who posted in Day 2 and that's why I have quoted that post of him. Of course, logically, if I'd be online at the time, I'd comment as quickly too. However, we have come to a conclusion that nobody was healed what is, as you have said, pointless. But, I have two theories on why have you decided not to kill during Night 1. Take a look:


1.) Wolf must split blood during both Day and Night in order to win. So, after a couple of Wolf Mafia games we have played, we have realized that. You have also commented on several occassions that it makes no sense for Wolf not to kill. This doesn't make sense, right? But I can imagine that you choose not to kill so that suspection for Wolf goes towards other, new and less experienced players. Like Pepchoninga  or niney16. 


2.) I consider you a very, very clever and smart player, Dan. So I can also imagine that you didn't kill Night 1 because you had no idea who Mafia is, and you didn't want to accidentally kill a Town player because that would put Town (and Wolf) only 1 player away from the loss (since the set-up would be 3-2-1, and there needs to be equal number of Mafia/Town players in order for Mafia to win). Second post of yours kinda goes into my favour, considering it suits my theory. 

Maybe one theory of mine is correct, maybe both of them, or maybe you are not the Wolf at all. 


But as I have said, you are very, very smart and clever player, Dan. Even ZP and hazmah who are arguably the most experienced players that have played Mafia at DA admitted that you are quite skilled player. 


I have, also, tested out the theory that Drunkion, Pep or Crimson are the Wolf. And althrough that theory works on a paper, the theory as a whole is weak and odd,  that's why I backed-up from both.


I also find it suspicious that you have been switching Drunkion and Pep as your most suspicious target. You want to lynch a townie today, kill Mafia at night and ultimately win the game. 


In additional, I have noticed that you have been cautious when you have communicated with me. Of course, I was the first one who claimed that you are the Wolf at the end. I trust you that you try out a new playstyle, as I also trust you that you are one of the players who try to learn and improve himself between the games. And that's also fine, but it's not a suitable counter-claim. 

Very good theory.  Your main argument appears to be that there is a reason why I wouldn't kill Night 1.  While this is true, my plan as Wolf would probably change depending on how Day 1 goes.

Since day 1 was a no-lynch scenario, it ideally would have gone something like:  Night 1 - kill Town; Day 2 - lynch Mafia; Night 2 - kill Town, hoping either my kill or the Mafia's kill was stopped by the Doctor; Day 3 - lynch Mafia; Night 3 - kill Town.  Day 2's lynch and Night 2's kill could be swapped, assuming the Town lynch doesn't make me suspicious, though the former scenario would be ideal.  The heal could also be moved to Night 2 for a similar result.

While theory on me casting suspicion on Niney and/or Pep would benefit me in this scenario, it would be quite a gambit, considering that, if the target was Town, I would have to be very careful not to draw attention to myself, as the lynch could potentially be traced back to me.

Since my plan would ideally have Town die first, your second theory doesn't fit, either.  Before you say I didn't know who was Town, I did have an idea.  The way you were playing during Day 1, Lux, indicated Town.  You were leading the discussion and attempting to root out the Mafia.  What you take as me being cautious around you is actually just that I don't think you're suspicious.

As for why I keep switching between Pep and Drunkion, it's mainly that I find both of them suspicious, though Pep more so.  I also haven't been switching as much as you imply.  The lynch on Drunkion was mainly a pressure lynch.  My first actual lynch was on Pep, which then changed to Drunkion.  (Admittedly, it is about to change again, but that's still only technically the second time.)

I hope this alleviates your concerns.  My next post will be about Pep and will contain both old and new evidence.  I was working on it while you were working on your post about me, so I shouldn't be long.

Well, I'm not sure what else you want from me.  Lux gave a theory, a couple of things to back it up, and that's about it.  I felt it would be best to give what I would have done if I was the Wolf, followed my reasoning for Lux's evidence.

While I was waiting on Lux's post as to why I'm the Wolf, I went ahead and looked back over the thread.  There are actually several thing against Pep.

Pep's inconsistencies aren't a recent thing.  They've been occurring since Day 1.  Xe keeps saying not to underestimate xym, yet uses "I'm new" as a defense multiple times throughout the game, including Day 1.

Despite having admitted to overusing "I'm new" as a defense, xe continues to use this later in the game.

During the Day 1 discussion, most, if not all, of xyr posts were just spam and joke accusations, thus costing us the discussion that day.

These joke accusations continue into Day 2, when Pep accused Niney of being the Wolf.  Pep admitted to this being a joke a few posts later.  Joking around is not productive for the Town.

When Niney role-revealed, Pep started insisting that Niney should be looked into.  This has continued up to where we are now.  We've already discussed this and I have nothing to add.

This has been discussed already, but Pep immediately bandwagoned when I made my case against Drunkion.  Pep's defense to this was, once again, being new.  (It's also worth noting that this can disprove Crimson's theory of them both being Mafia, as you wouldn't want to bandwagon against your partner.  A mid-to-final vote, sure, but not an immediate bandwagon.).

After voting to lynch xemself (more on that later), Pep then said that the mistakes xe made were due to being a new player, but once again says not to underestimate xem.  As stated before, this is inconstant and suspicious.

Pep mentions that lynching xemself is "heroic", yet it just sounds desperate to me.  (I would know.  I did the same thing my first game.)

Pep said xe was planning on laughing from the sidelines as xyr role was revealed upon death, but role-revealed anyways.  Once again, inconsistent (though probably not the biggest inconsistency).

Even after lynches on Pep were removed, xe kept the self-lynch.  The only reason I can think of for this is to gain trust.

As I mentioned earlier Pep had another inconsistency when xe said we should lynch someone soon, yet didn't lynch someone xe was suspicious of (Niney and Username), despite having immediately bandwagoned me.

The bandwagon is even more inconsistent in xyr next post, in which xe says that xe wants to have the deciding vote.  A bandwagon doesn't fit the bill.

Let's go back to the self-lynch with another inconsistency.  Pep recently said that a lynch could only go through if xe voted for xemself.  What's odd is that we weren't in danger of not lynching someone yet.  There were still about another 12 hours left in the day.

Overall, I find Pep the most suspicious at the moment and, unless a better candidate appears, I believe xe should be the one we lynch.

/unlynch Drunkion
/lynch Pepchoninga