Replace dorms with factions

Soo the recent survey got me thinking:
What is the current purpose of DP and Dorms really?
There are a few purposes for DP and dorms change your color, but besides that there is really no purpose for those to exist.

Soo... that got me thinking:
Why not replace Dorms with factions?
Have like 2, 3 or 4 factions with each their own leader.
One option would be like Arc-v: Synchro, Fusion, XYZ and Standard(Pendulum?), but those would restrict creativity.
Maybe 2 sides could work the best?

Anyways, to start this off, you could have one huge tournament with everyone involved (including staff, even they would participate in factions war) and people would be forced to save replays/recordings of the matches. In the case of 2 factions, the top 2 duelists would be the leaders, and then a draft would start where they take turns choosing people for their teams. They can also pick the leader if they don't want to be the leader themselves.

Ofcourse we would still be 1 community, it would add some more competitiveness and some more goals, as you could always challenge the leader of your faction for the title or something like that. I'm not too sure on the details ofcourse, but this sounds like something that would be fun, what do you guys think?

To start off; dorms are something DA has from the very beginning. It's something very basic, and it should stay like that

Well dp are absolutely useless, you are right. Everything u said explains current situation,however i dont think people will change things cuz le nostalgia or muh old da spirit.

Lux wrote:

To start off; dorms are something DA has from the very beginning. It's something very basic, and it should stay like that

Well, I can understand muh nostalgia, but to be honest, dorms do basically nothing atm.... besides having  your name in that color.

CrimsonOverlord wrote:

Well dp are absolutely useless, you are right. Everything u said explains current situation,however i dont think people will change things cuz le nostalgia or muh old da spirit.

Yeah I guess, which is kinda sad. Factions could spice things up, and would perhaps give people something to fight for in tournaments etc.

why replace.... i mean i can really see myself as Slifer Red, Synchro faction

In 2011 I was admin of an online ygo community that tried this very thing, except using Attributes instead of summoning mechanics. Let me just say it doesn't work. People will only want to join the faction using the best and the others will be left damn near empty.

It can be just two factions without a element or anything locked to them, just two rivaling factions fighting just because.
Constant training/helping eachother to make your faction the better one for example seems to work well.

Or make the dorms somewhat relevant, but don't ask me how as I have no clue.

Ah yes great competitive and fun ideas that will never see the day of light cuz we are doing just fine. Dp are basically useless numbers and ranks dont matter anymore since we barely have people dueling to rank up. Yeah the old times are dead. Adapt sth new plz

'just fine'  is really boring...... really

Yeah it was sarcasm kinda lol.

CrimsonOverlord wrote:

Ah yes great competitive and fun ideas that will never see the day of light cuz we are doing just fine. Dp are basically useless numbers and ranks dont matter anymore since we barely have people dueling to rank up. Yeah the old times are dead. Adapt sth new plz

There is just 0 arguments in there why dorms are bad. Bruh, they are here for years, you don't have to change everything because "it's bad", we can make it better instead.

Lux wrote:

CrimsonOverlord wrote:

Ah yes great competitive and fun ideas that will never see the day of light cuz we are doing just fine. Dp are basically useless numbers and ranks dont matter anymore since we barely have people dueling to rank up. Yeah the old times are dead. Adapt sth new plz

There is just 0 arguments in there why dorms are bad. Bruh, they are here for years, you don't have to change everything because "it's bad", we can make it better instead.

If you have a better solution sure, but current dorms are.. boring tbh.

This whole faction thing can also be done on top of dorms

AbyssalYGO wrote:

Lux wrote:

CrimsonOverlord wrote:

Ah yes great competitive and fun ideas that will never see the day of light cuz we are doing just fine. Dp are basically useless numbers and ranks dont matter anymore since we barely have people dueling to rank up. Yeah the old times are dead. Adapt sth new plz

There is just 0 arguments in there why dorms are bad. Bruh, they are here for years, you don't have to change everything because "it's bad", we can make it better instead.

If you have a better solution sure, but current dorms are.. boring tbh.

This whole faction thing can also be done on top of dorms

But why should dorms be replaced with factions? We could have them both. There are other possibikities, but same thing was when we got King of the Hill. They were saying it will be better when in fact is just as inactive/dead as Survival Master. Things do not always go as we wish they would.

Lux wrote:

AbyssalYGO wrote:

Lux wrote:

CrimsonOverlord wrote:

Ah yes great competitive and fun ideas that will never see the day of light cuz we are doing just fine. Dp are basically useless numbers and ranks dont matter anymore since we barely have people dueling to rank up. Yeah the old times are dead. Adapt sth new plz

There is just 0 arguments in there why dorms are bad. Bruh, they are here for years, you don't have to change everything because "it's bad", we can make it better instead.

If you have a better solution sure, but current dorms are.. boring tbh.

This whole faction thing can also be done on top of dorms

But why should dorms be replaced with factions? We could have them both. There are other possibikities, but same thing was when we got King of the Hill. They were saying it will be better when in fact is just as inactive/dead as Survival Master. Things do not always go as we wish they would.

"This whole faction thing can also be done on top of dorms"
As in, Dorms can be combined with factions yeah, I was basically agreein. King of the Hill holds no real value atm, and only 2 people were really dueling for it actively. The faction thing.. I have more hope for it personally tbh.

Yeah...but there is no reason to get rid of dorms. We could combine those two together.

As for DP, I have some ideas for it.

We could incorporate dorms in a faction matter. Just give meaning to dorms is what abyss is saying. Combine slifer and ra vs obelisk and sol. The elite faction vs the promising faction. Maybe have an ultimate goal both sides must achieve. Its basically light va darkness tier kinda. Itd be epic if we pull it off but inb4 too much work or confusion argument.

It would be simple, have 2 factions, for example light and darkness.
Hold one huge tournament involving everyone here that is active, the 2 finalists become leaders of their own faction.
Replays of all matches must be saved (or recording, get somebody to record if players in match can't).
Leaders take turns drafting players in tournament to their team. Winner gets to chose first.
Then you have 2 factions that can battle and stuff. Dorms can be used for ranking within the factions. Rise up dorms by beating opponents of higher dorms from opposing faction or doing good in battles.. something like that?

AbyssalYGO wrote:

It would be simple, have 2 factions, for example light and darkness.
Hold one huge tournament involving everyone here that is active, the 2 finalists become leaders of their own faction.
Replays of all matches must be saved (or recording, get somebody to record if players in match can't).
Leaders take turns drafting players in tournament to their team. Winner gets to chose first.
Then you have 2 factions that can battle and stuff. Dorms can be used for ranking within the factions. Rise up dorms by beating opponents of higher dorms from opposing faction or doing good in battles.. something like that?

Well, I don't want to be the "blah-blah" talker but I will...

1) Hold one huge tournament involving everyone here that is active
How can I say this......you can try, but looking at activity these days, the chances are that it's not going to go well. Idea can be fun but if you don't have enough people caring about it, it will wither. It's too big of a change in a sudden

2) the 2 finalists
This got me wonder, how many people will be doing this in reality? Yeah, I know it's easier to complain than to adapt something but if only 4 people joined this, let's say, they will automatically be the finalists ._.

3) Replays of all matches must be saved (or recording, get somebody to record if players in match can't).
This will mean DN will not be an option unless they screen record it then upload it. I know you as a "(YGO)Pro" player only, but there will be people like myself which cannot access other simulators. Screenshot should be enough if anything

4) have 2 factions, for example light and darkness
Well, think of a real proposal then post it in the tournament suggestion. Since at this stage, the 2 factions being Light and Dark are too vague. Like for example, look at Kozmo, which faction you going to put it in? What will be the requirements for each factions? Ofcourse you can ban whatever deck you want....to balance your idea out.

5) Rise up dorms by beating opponents of higher dorms
Your point is being make something else than the dorm system. Therefore, I think it would be better if they don't interact each other. A completely different system and point system will be used for this kind of major change.

In conclusion...:
In short you want DA to have a civil war system in order to keep things interesting. I get that you may think that will be a decent idea that will boost activity up or make DA more interesting. I am not against this. However, consider the possibility that inactivity will kick in and this ending up like another "King of the Hills". Mostly, the reason that people are not dueling is that they lost their interest in YGO, not because your idea is not interesting enough.

In short-
Replacing is not happening, though it seems you are aware of that already. If you want this to happen, wait for staffers' decision on this. The idea can be good if we have enough members. Though personally, I will tell you I am not expecting much activity for this. (if it ever happens) But yeah, go ahead and wait is all I can say.

.....and crimson, stop thinking that if you try everything then all inactivity will just poof n go away ._. you should not bring up this attitude in a public topic

Yes because doing the same things consistently without a spice up here and there will bring activity up. Also i dont think people are getting what abyss is saying. If you choose light faction, you are not forced to use light attribute decks and such. Dividing the 4 dorms in 2 diff massive sections would be the easier way to go. Yes current activity cuz of shet dn dying hurr durr makes this look too farfetched however you never know till you try. Bringing up the eh activity is low so rip new ideas is not a good attitude. I vote pro for this, however knowing how people operate here this will prob be forgotten.......sadly.

1. Well, you can still participate in the faction war without taking part in the tournament, the tournament is just to find out who is the leader, and enables the leader to look at replays/recordings to draft their members (will go more in depth at later point)

2. Might aswell try, site won't turn any deader or anything, because activity isn't exactly that high. With finalists I mean top 2, the last 2 players on top, they battle to decide who drafts/picks a member the first.

3. The replays serve for the scouting part were the leaders will look for players for their team, it's a way for newer/more unknown players here to showcase their skills/originality/whatnot too. Somebody else in chat could spectate and record the match or something?

4. No requirements of the factions, its just 2 sides. Light and Darkness are examples for names. Gladiators versus Soldiers, Snakes versus Dolphins, the name of the factions doesn't matter, it doesn't influence what deck they can use.

5. Alright, but it would be a great way to make a useless system (dorms) more relevant I guess. Because honestly, dorms atm are useless.


The reason nobody is getting involved with King of the Hill is that the topic is somewhere on the forums, and it rarely even gets mentioned in chat. I took Crimson's title by accident as I actually had no idea what the king was and that was how I ended up as king. KoTH wasn't advertised on the site at all. I mean, it might not do anything, but you are better off trying than just not doing anything at all tbh.

Love the fact that you stated "if this ever happens", because this is probably too much effort for staff to even try, no offense.

Ur last sentence describes whats really up @AbyssalYGO

I haven't read any of the other replies of this topic, so pardon me if this has been discussed already.

What are the differences between dorms and factions? there aren't any. We got 4 dorms, and we can have 4 factions. Dorms are factions, just with a different title; and vise-versa of course. Switching dorms with factions is basically changing the groups names, that's all there is to it. It's the same system which only uses different titles.

Factions, if we're to do this separately, could be an event where people from all 4 dorms choose which faction they belong to and accordingly have something relating to their assigned faction displayed in their profiles, but that is an absolutely alternate discussion that requires it owns space.

I've seen other communities, specially new academies, attempting something similar. Instead of going with the default Slifer, Ra, Obelisk and SoL dorms they tried to go with Stardust, Archfiend, Black Rose, etc. It never worked for any of them.

Duel Points are more like trophies you show off, they lack a place to use, but again you don't really see much people selling or trading their trophies in real life on daily bases. It's still can be used as currency in shops or tournaments, but it's better to think of DPs as something to collect as a hobby and show off with it each time you make a new post.

Completely pointless idea im affraid, where the difference between a dorm and a faction is extinct.

This sounds more like an idea from the mortal kombat x system, to which is also pointless.

And as stated in an above post, the numbers are too low currently for this idea to even get off the ground.

Think of it as search and destroy or capture the flag. Which faction will earn the ultimate goal first? Is what abyss is trying to say.

Alright, lets just stick to the same old dorm system and watch the site's activity bleed to death, I don't care either way tbh

you wanted some sort of in-academy war, but yeah, with this number of people, it's hard for it to happen and plus half of us don't even want to duel for different reasons.

one last time crimson, with that attitude of yours, even if you have a valid point it will fade away due to that behavior....

What attitude lol? Im just saying what i dont like. Doing the same thing forever isnt making the cut as you can see. I just approve of sth new. If it fails welp lets move on. Whats the risk anyway? No activity? As if our current tournies are exploding. I mean no offense to anyone, im just stating the situation of events and stuff but inb4 we are doing fine again welp ok heh

What attitude? The miserable attitude, ffs look at the mirror and see if you talk like that in court, even if your testimony is valid, you will make their credit drop, get it? Your point is another thing, the way you talk is another. If you still don't get it, go talk to your boss at work like that and see what will happen.

Well ok enough sarcasm then, however the point is still there. Lets just stop. It always ends up like this if someone says sth true about current flow.

as I said, if you want this, at least put this up in staff discussion with a well planned out system. About the outcome, that's something I cannot control...