[Archetype Discussion] Monarchs

Last edited by SilentKatana on Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:42 pm; edited 2 times in total

Very nice Katana-san!

Maybe put in some of the key cards that they use so people can make decks off this?

Can't say I blame you but, lol, spoiler fked up again, edited >.>

@SilentKatana Fill their names in the 123456 spoilers

I've waited long enough...

Added The Great Mara Monarch.

Call me a skrub but I'm failing to see why Kuraz is getting so much play? The only reason I can see is to pop scales but that nets your opponent a 2 draw aswell as filling there extra deck.

Kuraz get's it's effect on the special summon. So you can summon it with Aither on the opponents turn with ease. Generally, the disruption it can provide on the opponents turn offsets the draws the opponent gets. You can also use it on dead continuous spells to get the draw yourself

SilentKatana wrote:

Kuraz get's it's effect on the special summon. So you can summon it with Aither on the opponents turn with ease. Generally, the disruption it can provide on the opponents turn offsets the draws the opponent gets. You can also use it on dead continuous spells to get the draw yourself

This ^^

(Beat me to it..lolz)

But yes, you see the main reason is because he's the only monarch that gets his effect when he's special summoned Kuraz and Aither are the perfect partners in crime in that sense.
(at least at this point.. You never know more stuff may come given the new monarchs are featured in the Arc V manga I believe)

Also the fact it has a dual purpose, he can be used to break up your opponents plays by popping the play makers to disrupt your opponent. Or go Kuraz blade style and popping your own cards to draw cards and advance your game state. It's very versatile in that regard. The question I'd ask is why people aren't running him?

Ok I've been playing this deck a little while now and whilst I agree that Kuraz eff is usefull I always gets fucked over by there 2 draws (if I pop there cards that is). I was thinking about playing another monarch in his place.

Everybody plays Kuraz in OCG since it's a Quick Effect used by Aither. Most of time you Kill your opp monsters not the Pendulum Scales, you kill them if you know you can handle the Pendulum Summon, if they get Re-Used.

But the 75% of times you kill your own Original Monarch OR your own Spell\Traps AND Kuraz Itself to draw.

So after more hours of playing this is the deck I've come up with so far http://prntscr.com/9yw6cc
Any suggestions?

Majesty's Fiend
^ him

Yeah but Domian + Vanity is a good lock and you still get to use your Monarch effects, Domain + Majesty is good also but you loose your effects to and they can still special summon.

lose* not loose

I think vanity>Majesty Specially since Pepe will be gone now and mirror can die in peace

I don't like running more than 1 Kuraz (hint: kurac means d*ck in Croatian, close enough).

I'm liking 2, Popping dead cards etc to draw through my deck. What you run in place of the second Kurac ?

Roach wrote:

I'm liking 2, Popping dead cards etc to draw through my deck. What you run in place of the second Kurac ?

1 Majesty is good. My build is heavy anti pepe tho, in 4 days I will adapt it to the adjusted list.

1 Kuraz is fine. I also recommend considering Thestalios, card is an absolute beast in the mirror. You should be preparing for the mirror more than anything, as this will be the best deck ... ironically, everyone's hyping Kozmo, which as long as you don't brick; you shouldn't have any real problems dealing with counter-siding is key post g1

Kuraz is also only used in the beater Monarch deck. You pretty much remove all monarchs except Erebus in the lock monarch deck in favor for majesties fiend and vanities fiend at 3.

I also believe that kuraz is good at 2 but in the mainliner of the monarch beater deck is Aither into Zaborg, but in this beater deck you have at least anywhere from 3-15 cards in your extra so you can use Zaborg to continually remove cards from your opponents extra. Although is a bit of an OCG deck for Elder Entity En'tis (because when she's sent to the graveyard she destroys 1 card your opponent controls) You can add things like PsyFrame Omega too because he also works really well in the graveyard.

Yeah I have a OCG deck which has the likes of N'tess and Omega in but I prefer playing TCG. I've made a few last alterations to my deck now and will upload a screen later.

psychoturtle wrote:

I don't like running more than 1 Kuraz (hint: kurac means d*ck in Croatian, close enough).

That's true!

2 kuraz for the life!

Jv wrote:

2 kuraz for the life!

I remember you said some user posted something of the sort b4......?

Are these guys really competitive? From what I've heard, they're dissed almost everywhere and people still complain that they know to brick hard... Perhaps it's just me, I still didn't see someone using them

yeah they are, you just gotta know how to build them, if you try to put weird techs yeah you will be break, the turbo build spamming kuraz and ether is what makes the deck strong

You wrote Mobius instead of Granmarg in OP. Garum [img] messed up and the monarchs stomfort too.

Also some images can't load

Yeah, so... talking as a HERO player
I decided to play few matches in this newest format on my study breaks and these guys were pain in the ass if I don't get some backrow in the first hand. Also, I haven't updated my deck in years so there was no side for these bitches.
 Still, nothing I play got hit so I didn't touch main at all exept switching Crush Card Virus with Emptyness from side to main. I'm usually able to pull Dark Law almost every turn + if I get Fiendish Chain or Mind Crush, they're pretty much screwed, after siding I just put in 3 Masks of Restric and few Spell Shatering Arrows and deck it DEAD. Once again I'm actually impressed how new decks arrive and I still have decent Match-ups and shit like, I never loseeee

well you were lucky to no see a Twin twister and friends.