Bottomless Trap Hole vs Compulsory Evacuation Device

Which is better this format?

I would say bottomless, because prio is gone when a monster is summoned. Also the only Compulse usually does a -1. You mainly only need it to get by Stardust, Zenmaines, and a couple of other good cards. Mainly Bottomless is more viable, and removes the monster for play, leads for a mechanic +1 sometimes. Do you have space to add both in your deck?

This isnt really for deck help its just for opinions.

With less and less dino rabbit being played, bottomless is becoming a card you don't exactly need. I'd say compulse has a lot more plays seeing as you can target your own cards as well. But in some scenarios bottomless is good against things like stratos or other high beaters

onlyaaron17 wrote:

I would say bottomless, because prio is gone when a monster is summoned. Also the only Compulse usually does a -1. You mainly only need it to get by Stardust, Zenmaines, and a couple of other good cards. Mainly Bottomless is more viable, and removes the monster for play, leads for a mechanic +1 sometimes. Do you have space to add both in your deck?

CED is only a -1 when used on a card that can be immediately resummoned on their following turn. Using CED on Synchros, Fusions, and Xyz monsters makes it a +/- 0 that is chainable, can be used on your own monsters, and on pre-existing monsters on the field. D. Prison has the advantage of being able to be used after a monster is summoned, just like CED, but isn't chainable, and doesn't stop ignition effects. BTH on the other hand unlik D. Prison and like CED can be used to stop ignition effects. CED essentially offers the best of both worlds unless using it on something that can immediately be used the turn after, but has the advantages of being chainable (which does into it being used on pre-existing monsters) and targeting your own monsters (extremely viable in Rescue Rabbit variants and a few other decks as well).

I've always relied on CED, never seen BTH as ever being really needed (for me at least, I always have other cards that work just as well or work better for my needs).

Sorry I couldn't have been more of a help on as to why one is really better than the other, just a matter of taste for me, I guess. ::Monkey18::

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CED in some aspects, BTH in others. I use both though.

If I'm playing Watts, BTH isn't going to be useful.

If I'm playing Six Sams or something of the like, CED isn't going to be as useful. (Since they can just throw the monster back out if you CED the ones that can summon themselves.)

If I'm playing something like Dino Rabbits, either one can be useful.
(BTH banishes both Dinos summoned by Rabbit, CED bounces one and Rabbit's eff kills the other.)

good for siding out options, but it all comes down to what you and your opponent draw, and what your opponent is playing.

Eheroduelist wrote:

CED in some aspects, BTH in others. I use both though.

If I'm playing Six Sams or something of the like, CED isn't going to be as useful. (Since they can just throw the monster back out if you CED the ones that can summon themselves.)

I find CED extremely useful against SS. BTH won't stop Kageki, Kagemusha, or Elder, but CED will bounce them, making them unable to go into Shi En. Also helps against Naturia Beast if you don't have a BTH at the time of it's summon.

My personal opinion is CED. BTH is becoming outdated in this format and CED has been more useful to me in stopping powerful monsters from hitting me.

I run only 2 CED in my HERO Deck and only 1 BTH in my (virtual) Bubble-Beat, alongside with 2 CEDs.

I also appreciate a build of Verz Laggia by GirlChan that maindecks 3 CED, if I'm not mistaken.

I feel BTH is better with out all these low lvl monsters being out. I mean you can always add both or side one of the other, because you never know what you are up against.

Compulsory:

Chainable (possible +1)
Can get rid of Stardust/Zenmaines/Maestroke/Axon Kicker/Tiras
Works against Inzektors
Greater range of targets
Can be used defensively on your monsters

Possible -1 if desperate
Not useful on trigger effects
Not suitable for Six Sams/Darkworlds/Koa'kis

Bottomless

It gets rid of re-summon-able monsters

Not chainable
1500ATK limit
Doesn't work on 95% of all major extra deck monsters

Main CED. If someone wants to main Bottomless, they can main Black Horn of Heaven instead, it's better than BTH now. It cannot even be lance'd.

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Compulsory:

Chainable (possible +1)
Can get rid of Stardust/Zenmaines/Maestroke/Axon Kicker/Tiras
Works against Inzektors
Greater range of targets
Can be used defensively on your monsters

Possible -1 if desperate
Not useful on trigger effects
Not suitable for Six Sams/Darkworlds/Koa'kis

Bottomless

It gets rid of re-summon-able monsters

Not chainable
1500ATK limit
Doesn't work on 95% of all major extra deck monsters

Main CED. If someone wants to main Bottomless, they can main Black Horn of Heaven instead, it's better than BTH now. It cannot even be lance'd.

Nice. Well in that case, side BTH. For Agents, Dark Worlds, Hero's, and Hieratics.

Juelz Anthony Cruz wrote:

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Compulsory:

Chainable (possible +1)
Can get rid of Stardust/Zenmaines/Maestroke/Axon Kicker/Tiras
Works against Inzektors
Greater range of targets
Can be used defensively on your monsters

Possible -1 if desperate
Not useful on trigger effects
Not suitable for Six Sams/Darkworlds/Koa'kis

Bottomless

It gets rid of re-summon-able monsters

Not chainable
1500ATK limit
Doesn't work on 95% of all major extra deck monsters

Main CED. If someone wants to main Bottomless, they can main Black Horn of Heaven instead, it's better than BTH now. It cannot even be lance'd.

Nice. Well in that case, side BTH. For Agents, Dark Worlds, Hero's, and Hieratics.

Compulsory works wonders against Hieratics too, especially now that there is only one Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon to continue the combo. Just CED their first Atum and they stop right there.

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Juelz Anthony Cruz wrote:

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Compulsory:

Chainable (possible +1)
Can get rid of Stardust/Zenmaines/Maestroke/Axon Kicker/Tiras
Works against Inzektors
Greater range of targets
Can be used defensively on your monsters

Possible -1 if desperate
Not useful on trigger effects
Not suitable for Six Sams/Darkworlds/Koa'kis

Bottomless

It gets rid of re-summon-able monsters

Not chainable
1500ATK limit
Doesn't work on 95% of all major extra deck monsters

Main CED. If someone wants to main Bottomless, they can main Black Horn of Heaven instead, it's better than BTH now. It cannot even be lance'd.

Nice. Well in that case, side BTH. For Agents, Dark Worlds, Hero's, and Hieratics.

Compulsory works wonders against Hieratics too, especially now that there is only one Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon to continue the combo. Just CED their first Atum and they stop right there.

Not to mention the fact that having your Ehero the Shining CED'd sucks.

Eheroduelist wrote:

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Juelz Anthony Cruz wrote:

Reaper of the Cards wrote:

Compulsory:

Chainable (possible +1)
Can get rid of Stardust/Zenmaines/Maestroke/Axon Kicker/Tiras
Works against Inzektors
Greater range of targets
Can be used defensively on your monsters

Possible -1 if desperate
Not useful on trigger effects
Not suitable for Six Sams/Darkworlds/Koa'kis

Bottomless

It gets rid of re-summon-able monsters

Not chainable
1500ATK limit
Doesn't work on 95% of all major extra deck monsters

Main CED. If someone wants to main Bottomless, they can main Black Horn of Heaven instead, it's better than BTH now. It cannot even be lance'd.

Nice. Well in that case, side BTH. For Agents, Dark Worlds, Hero's, and Hieratics.

Compulsory works wonders against Hieratics too, especially now that there is only one Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon to continue the combo. Just CED their first Atum and they stop right there.

Not to mention the fact that having your Ehero the Shining CED'd sucks.

Just imagine you being the one that CEDs your opponent's Shining.

BTH does some harm, but CED is definitely more versatile.

Well from what i have seen people are playing compulse alot more over BTH in some decks.

Spade wrote:

Well from what i have seen people are playing compulse alot more over BTH in some decks.

It's not really a matter of deck choices. Even with priority, CED was arguably as good as BTH, with preference from most people leaning towards CED. Now with prio gone, CED is generally better than BTH in every way.

Girl Chan i can always expect for u to give me some good insight