and although many tournies ban these deck-types, note that it is only because the people running those tournies are noobs who don't keep up with the game. Those decks used to be really good once upon a time, but nowadays they all pretty much suck, other than Empty Jar decks which are a type of mill deck that is decent. Anyway, don't go thinking that just because noobs ban them from some tournies that they are actually good decks because, well, they aren't. -.-