Lesson 23 [Solved: jjh927, Ezekiel]

Last edited by Dex♥ on Sat May 05, 2012 2:16 pm; edited 7 times in total

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Erudite_Junon
Is this what you mean by Junon?

My answer is that it is not possible to reduce your opponent's life points to zero that turn. The closets you can get is to deal 2500 damage:

Use "Junon the Magical Priestess" to banish "The Torah Books of Spell" from your graveyard and destroy your opponent's "Dark Armed Dragon".
Normal summon "Necroface" and use it's effect to shuffle "The Torah Books of Spell" back into your deck.
Use "The Grimoire Books of Spell" from your hand to get "The Torah Books of Spell" to your hand.
Then activate "The Torah Books of Spell" second effect on "Junon" so that it is unaffected by all Trap Cards.
You're opponent loses 2500 LP because of "Junon".
If you attack with Necroface then it get's destroyed by Dimensional Prison.

Ezekeil wrote:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Magical_Erudite_Junon
Is this what you mean by Junon?

Yes.

Yamisly wrote:

My answer is that it is not possible to reduce your opponent's life points to zero that turn. The closets you can get is to deal 2500 damage:

Use "Junon the Magical Priestess" to banish "The Torah Books of Spell" from your graveyard and destroy your opponent's "Dark Armed Dragon".
Normal summon "Necroface" and use it's effect to shuffle "The Torah Books of Spell" back into your deck.
Use "The Grimoire Books of Spell" from your hand to get "The Torah Books of Spell" to your hand.
Then activate "The Torah Books of Spell" second effect on "Junon" so that it is unaffected by all Trap Cards.
You're opponent loses 2500 LP because of "Junon".
If you attack with Necroface then it get's destroyed by Dimensional Prison.

It is possible.

Last edited by Yamisly on Wed May 02, 2012 2:10 pm; edited 1 time in total

Dam if only Temper was Forse The Magical Warrior insted then the win would be clear.

If you had forse you could summon it return torah and increace junon by 500 use grimoire to get back torah use torah's second eff on junon then junon's eff on dark armed and attack with 3000 for the win

You are all thinking too simple..
There are a few complicated and minute taking combos involved here.. And I will solve this lesson no matter what..
Just wait

Keep trying guys...

! Gianus wrote:

You are all thinking too simple..
There are a few complicated and minute taking combos involved here.. And I will solve this lesson no matter what..
Just wait

Ok then hurry up i want to see what i did wrong

Prize bumped up to 250 DP

could you of put it in wrong

Jokerlord wrote:

could you of put it in wrong

I thaink he would have noticed it if he did

Jokerlord wrote:

could you of put it in wrong

no, omg the solution is there... just read the card effects! You don't know how many pm's people have sent me asking me to double check. It's starting to get annoying.

how many cards does opponent have on deck?

Pretend that they have 40 cards.

is there any way in wich i can get 2 books on my hand at any given time?

My friend Levi and I just spent several hours on this. Here's what he has to say:

"Upon my investigation of this puzzle, i have came to the conclusion that there is not a legal answer that would result in your opponents life points reaching 0. My reasons for thinking this involves the step-by-step process of every legal move that could be presented.

The combo that is being prompted to be found revolves around the use of Junon to banish a book from the graveyard and then using necroface to add it back to the deck, and then using grimoire to retreive it. Junon's effect also removes Dark Armed Dragon from the field, making for a direct attack. The ideal situation is getting the book of Torah and the book of Hygromantei to increase junon's attack and making her immune to traps. The steps leading to this are

1. Banish Torah with Junon
2. Summon Necroface (using its effect to add Torah to the deck)
3. Activate Grimoire (Adding torah to hand)
4. Activate Torah

Which then leads to a 2500 direct attack, but you are unable to finish the opponent off due to the fact that necroface is still vulnerable to spells and traps.

The issue with using temper is that if you normal summon him, his effect merely lets you special summon 1 level 5 or higher light or dark spellcaster from you deck. at any time where he would be legally summoned, there is no target available in the deck. The only level 5 or higher spellcaster provided is Chaos Sorcerer, but he is in the graveyard and their is no process to recycle him as you can do with the books.

I also experimented with using the grimoire first to reach for Hygromantei, and then using junon to banish torah and summoning necroface (once again the summoning of temper is useless) to add torah to the deck, but there is no way to draw.

Heavy Storm and Heiron are also provided in which this scenario could be achieved, but neither of them are usable in anyway (as is doomcaliber knight, but he would result in being useless as well)

There is also the idea that if necroface is destroyed, its last effect goes off, but this is not beneficial to harming your opponent.

Wrapping it all up, due to the fact that an extra draw is not present, the means to attack for game are simply not there. If there is a solution, i am very interested in knowing it, but i very strongly believe that this problem is impossible."

Ezekeil wrote:

My friend Levi and I just spent several hours on this. Here's what he has to say:

"Upon my investigation of this puzzle, i have came to the conclusion that there is not a legal answer that would result in your opponents life points reaching 0. My reasons for thinking this involves the step-by-step process of every legal move that could be presented.

The combo that is being prompted to be found revolves around the use of Junon to banish a book from the graveyard and then using necroface to add it back to the deck, and then using grimoire to retreive it. Junon's effect also removes Dark Armed Dragon from the field, making for a direct attack. The ideal situation is getting the book of Torah and the book of Hygromantei to increase junon's attack and making her immune to traps. The steps leading to this are

1. Banish Torah with Junon
2. Summon Necroface (using its effect to add Torah to the deck)
3. Activate Grimoire (Adding torah to hand)
4. Activate Torah

Which then leads to a 2500 direct attack, but you are unable to finish the opponent off due to the fact that necroface is still vulnerable to spells and traps.

The issue with using temper is that if you normal summon him, his effect merely lets you special summon 1 level 5 or higher light or dark spellcaster from you deck. at any time where he would be legally summoned, there is no target available in the deck. The only level 5 or higher spellcaster provided is Chaos Sorcerer, but he is in the graveyard and their is no process to recycle him as you can do with the books.

I also experimented with using the grimoire first to reach for Hygromantei, and then using junon to banish torah and summoning necroface (once again the summoning of temper is useless) to add torah to the deck, but there is no way to draw.

Heavy Storm and Heiron are also provided in which this scenario could be achieved, but neither of them are usable in anyway (as is doomcaliber knight, but he would result in being useless as well)

There is also the idea that if necroface is destroyed, its last effect goes off, but this is not beneficial to harming your opponent.

Wrapping it all up, due to the fact that an extra draw is not present, the means to attack for game are simply not there. If there is a solution, i am very interested in knowing it, but i very strongly believe that this problem is impossible."

There's already a Junon on the field, so just special summon the one in the deck.
There are quite a few cards that are not needed to win. So maybe you didn't understand what I put in the op.

Banish torah with junon, destroy dark armed.

Activate grimoire, get hygromantei.

Normal temper.

Tribute temper for junon.

Overlay both junons for magical hierophant.

Activate hygromantei on hierophant.

There are now 3 books of spell in grave, detach, destroy the 3 dimensional prisons.

Attack for 3800, boosted thanks to hygro.

Dex please put who solve it so that people know when they open and look for answer