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The Dueling Book? The new DN?

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So i'm posting this mostly to try and give myself and all of you a bit of hope that there is still a chance we will get our main dueling platform or at least something close to it...now we all know that a 3-rd party started to take down online free to play dueling platforms and they are probably not gonna stop till they have shut down all that is left of our community really. As probably you know the real problem is mostly the cards copyright or at least that is what they are hiding behind...But i saw a video of Slaydra (I know he is not really a good place to get viable information in the Yugituber community anymore, but still...) of a new internet site called "Dueling Book". In the video you can see Slaydra reading the the "New Features and Differences from DN". Here is the video link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEg7sF1yRso . Unfortunately the official site's page has removed this text so the only way to read it (or hear Slaydra do it) is by watching his or some of the other Youtubers that have made a video on it. Still, there is a link to the site for you to see it's legit - https://www.duelingbook.com/

Now i guess i'm gonna give my little opinion on all this and say how i think it could work. First it is clear from the overall design of the page that people that have worked on Dueling Network are also working on this project or maybe they have borrowed some of the things tho, this seems more unlikely. This could be good since with all its flaws DN had a lot of great features and overall good set up in my opinion that could make a good lather for something even better. With that and hopefully some new faces we could be getting something better the DN ever was. And in the text the developers have released, they seem to want to do just that. As you will see they want to add more features that will help interactions between users and make it more of a social site than just a duel simulator with a sometimes crappy community. There are definitely some promising things in there that at least for me will make the experience much better. From the text we can also see that the developers are well...more open minded. Along with the funny comments (witch to some people may be offensive) the people that are making this openly insult and bash the DN admins/staff. Now even if this could be true the way they present it doesn't really give me a good impression, but let's hope that would not reflect on the overall quality and enjoyment.

And finally i wanna just touch on the questions that some of you may be asking. How will this be different? Wouldn't it be taken down just like DN? Well Slaydra did touch on this topic i think and for me there is 2 possibility's. First up they could be just making this to try and show that the yugioh community wants to have they're online duel simulators and with the making of this site show that we are not gonna give up. Now this is an adventures idea and one that is not really sure to touch the hearts of Konami and Nihon and whatever other party is responsible for our current situation. Off course it's not that easy to take down a paid site or so i think since it probably have to go trough lawsuits and whatever so it may take quit a lot of time to get them down. But even so i Konami and company are determined to shut up all the simulators it will be only a matter of time to see this new site get shut down as well. And so there is another possibility. Since the accusation on all the other simulators is that they are using official card designs and all that and that gets the problem of copyright, maybe they can find a way to indirectly use the card designs. This is not a thing i really understand so i'm just making a wild guess but i do hope there is a way around this. 

So this is all just my opinion and i though i would share it with you. What do you think of this possible new duel simulator and do you think it can go trough the Nihon strike and maybe give the fresh start that i think we all needed and reignite academy's as well.

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When DN was taken down a pack of DN staffers starter talking about 'Dueling Book' but it's merely an idea that didn't get past the planning board. From what I've gathered from DNF they're currently pursuing to make DNF simply be a DNF without having any dueling platform attached to its name. Beside if you think of this from business-perspective then you notice that KONAMI, or whoever has rights over their cards, shouldn't be blamed or hated for any of this - just as when you get angry if someone takes your stuff, they too have the right to claim rights over what's theirs.

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It was the anime studio that charged the cease and desist not konami. The north american anime studio nas. They own the card art so it seems. Also konami are releasing a bunch of official games this year, so i guess they kinda were in on this too

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I see, i can't really talk a lot since i wasn't active in the community when DN got shut and i saw this thing and got enthusiastic. But i'm still wondering if it was merely an idea why is the site still up and why is it changing content. Also of course we cannot do anything really in the situation since realistically they do have the right to take down those platforms since they do use illegally the cards i guess. But there is also the question of why do they deside to do it now? There is the new game that we are apparently getting even tho i'm not sure we will get the freedom that we got from DN, YGOpro ext...

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DNF is turning into another pojo in a sense. No need for dueling platform as long as everybody gets to talk. They're also including CFV, Pokemon TCG Online and Hearthstone into their forums during the next couple of weeks or so. Quincmccoy or whoever he's called is currently the admin in charge of such transition of DN forums.

As for the dueling platform, It won't see light. The only method for a platform to exist nowadays is for you to never make money out of it. As long as it's free-to-play and doesn't have donations system then you can have your platform. But again, nobody would be willing to pay their own money to keep such platform online.

Also I bet KONAMI's new games suck balls just like their previous attempts.

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HEARTHSTONE MASTERACE, the game were RNG Is the mvp

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I'm pretty sure Dueling Book was just a prank someone did. I remember it from awhile, but memory fails me.

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Yeah i got on DNF and asked some friends and they all said it was fake...thinking about it it's no suprise really from the way they wrote there "new features". Seems to me it was more to mock the DN staff then anything...bummer really...

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Dueling Network was really bad, YGOPRO was much better than it even then. No one is going back to Dueling Network after YGOPRO, it does not happen. YGOPRO teams update their games daily, so there are little to no glitches in the game.

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Im pretty sure 80% of the previous community of DN would go back

It's not more for gameplay but for more of a talkative atmosphere

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Most of my chats on DN when it comes to ranked were pretty much:

U1: k?
U2: k
U1: k?
U2: k

The other issue are people who don't want to accept rulings that are legit and the wait for someone to come and confirm they are right. Yes YGOPRO has bugs, but it is patched pretty much everyday.

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The only reason I prefer DN over YGOPro is that it's manual, hence it could give a similar vibe to it just like if you were playing in real life.

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what i wanna know is, why for 10 years has konami been fighting to take away online dueling systems? why wont they just buy the rights to DN or something? no one likes their dueling systems (the mobile game is ok) and it would seem smarter to just take DN, YGOPro,... hell even KCVDS and make it better and stop trying to make their shitty systems happen.

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Because people are using their trademarked material and they want the money? They get no money from people playing their game for free, so they want to put a stop to that. They don't take these software and make them official because if they did they would have to pay a lot of people to use it, they don't want that. While the gameplay is Konami's the coding isnt, so they would have to pay people who made the code because they are a company and shit. KONAMI knows that they can't make a good F2P system for Yu-Gi-Oh!, while they can make a game people will enjoy they can't make it so it gives them a constant flow of cash. I would love to see a Power of Chaos like game, that would release expansions everytime a new pack would come out, that would be a cool system for them.

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Skitoritto wrote:
Most of my chats on DN when it comes to ranked were pretty much:

U1: k?
U2: k
U1: k?
U2: k


The accuracy is unreal

Also hey skitty :D

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Kandy.JPEG wrote:
Im pretty sure 80% of the previous community of DN would go back

It's not more for gameplay but for more of a talkative atmosphere


Pretty much

A lot of people use browser platforms because of this or they don't play all the time to have the system instaled or whatever. DN/DB vs Pros, it's personal preference but it's always nice to have a system that's always available to general online comunity, that is the biggest plus when it comes to comparing them. Would love to DN's son soon available :3

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I met lots of people with dn, with pro its just muted duels lmao. Well gotta be thankful i can even play the game at all tbh, if pro gets erased as well rip ygo for all

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Dueling Network was also a muted system most of the time, the only reason to use it other than standard "k" fest was to argue or to mess around with your friends. YGOPRO eliminates the arguing part, because your feelings and interpertations of rulings don't matter.

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Skitoritto wrote:
Dueling Network was also a muted system most of the time, the only reason to use it other than standard "k" fest was to argue or to mess around with your friends. YGOPRO eliminates the arguing part, because your feelings and interpertations of rulings don't matter.


This also depends on players. If you both just want to finish the duel, it will be like that. I always tend to mess around with players. If they get good combo or do something crazy, I just say aww shit you fucked me up fam, and convo just goes, which makes the duel 10 times more fun

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I honestly think Skit has never dueled on DN before if he thinks most duels are like that.

Ignorance is bliss tho>

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Deam, that necro post lol The Dueling Book? The new DN? 3974120512


Tbh, I would like to have both. Dueling Netword does give a more realistic feel and as Crimson said, I met most of my friends there. From there I got onto academys, started understanding the ins and outs of the game better. While it was utterly frustrating to argue on stupid timing things like if you activate Call Of The Haunted and he chains MST, will the monster get to hit the field...YGOpro eliminates those problems and gives a more enjoyable dueling experience. 


Overall, Dueling Book would be more then welcome for me...many people will come back and will start playing again...this will help us with activity as well. 

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DN was lit. You don't even have issues with rulings once you get higer EXP. 
Though, there are some admin calls when both players are not sure about someting while they both search for solution.

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Just use Percy now guys it's stable.

We can also misplay if we fail at rulings at Percy sometime.

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Galaksii wrote:
DN was lit. You don't even have issues with rulings once you get higer EXP. 
Though, there are some admin calls when both players are not sure about someting while they both search for solution.

Biggest problem was 80% of DN admins were retards...

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They are not retards, contain your salt.

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Pepchoninga wrote:
Galaksii wrote:
DN was lit. You don't even have issues with rulings once you get higer EXP. 
Though, there are some admin calls when both players are not sure about someting while they both search for solution.

Biggest problem was 80% of DN admins were retards...


They were always reasonable and fair if you ask me

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Dunno, I've had encounters with some really shit admins...

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There are always individuals. 




Besides they had to deal with tons of shit.

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Some admins were even trolling dude...


There was little to no professionalism sometimes...at least there grammar was good lals...

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I'm not defending them, I'm trying to point out that they are humans, too. They had to deal with hundreds of uncivilized players who couldn't even say thank you when Admin would solve an issue.

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