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I never posted here because I prefer make all decks by myself, but now really need help in this one, because I don't know alot of cards that can be useful.

DECK: 40 cards

Monsters: 20

2* Metal darkness dragon
2*Dark Horus
1*DAD
3*Red-eyes dragon wyvern
3*Phantom of Chaos
3*Armageddon Knight
2*Mirage dragon
2*Masked Dragon
2*Exploder Dragon

Spells: 12

1*Future Fusion
1*MST
1*Heavy Storm
2*Allure of Darkness
2*Foolish Burial
1*Monster Reborn
2*Lightening Vortex
2*Burial from a Different Dimension (it's useful with phantom of chaos and Metal darkness dragon)

Traps: 8 (I chose them randomly, cuz I really don't know any trap that can go with this deck Razz)

3*BTH
1*Mirror force
3*Dimensional Prison
1*Torrential Tribute

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sorry for double posting, but apparencly no one paid attention to this Sad

I did some changes after some test duels, and for the new ban list:

DECK: 40 cards

Monsters: 21

3* Metal darkness dragon
2*Dark Horus
1*DAD
3*Red-eyes dragon wyvern
3*Phantom of Chaos
3*Armageddon Knight
2*Mirage dragon
2*Masked Dragon
2*Exploder Dragon

Spells: 9

1*Future Fusion
1*MST
1*Heavy Storm
2*Allure of Darkness
2*Lightening Vortex
2*Burial from a Different Dimension (it's useful with phantom of chaos and wyvern...)

Traps: 10

2*BTH
1*Mirror force
3*Dimensional Prison
1*Torrential Tribute
1*Call of the haunted
1*Solemn Judgement
1*Return from the Different Dimension

Extra Deck: 3 cards

3* Five-Headed Dragon

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SORRY FOR TRIPLE POSTING LOOOOL

But there's 2 days btw each of my posts. no fix to this deck? it's a perfect deck? I don't think so xD

Come on neko look at this!

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Dragon decks completely lose when the opponent sides in Royal Oppression. Unless you have a few different ways to deal with that there is already little point in discussing this deck. 3x PoC is too much. Dark Grepher is probably a better choice than Arma Knight, and either way you don't need 3. I'd test dropping Burial down to 1 to avoid dead draws of it. There is no reason for 2 Lightning Vortex. You don't need 2 BTH and 3 D Prison. That is overkill and results in too many bad draws. I'd try to fit a copy of Dragon's Mirror into the deck, especially since you're running Burial and RftDD.

To defend yourself against Oppression, which completely destroys any Dragon deck, you would need cards like Decree, Trap Eater, and Trunade at the very least in your side deck, although as LS has shown in the past that is often not enough.

On another note, the deck has only 1 draw engine and 1 search engine (Allure and Masked Dragon) which makes the deck very slow and it becomes difficult to search out cards you need. You also don't have enough ways to defend yourself against OTK's, so you need to be maining Roar/Waboku and maybe Trap Dustshoot. I'd suggest Gold Sarc. to at least give you some more searching power. I'd also suggest adding in at least 1-2 tuners so you can have the option of synchro summoning. With all your grave control, Plaguespreader Zombie is a good choice, and then maybe a copy of Gale too since he's always a good card to top deck.

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I did alot of test duels with this deck, and I found some things:

Armageddon Knight VS dark Grepher VS foolish burial: I found Armageddon is the best choice because with him I'll send 100% the card in my grave, unlike grepher, because discarding I can't iscard always a dark monster... Armageddon is better than foolish because he's a DARK monster, that mean he's good with DAD or PoC (when I take DAD eff). That's why I chose armagedon, not grepher (I tested this alot). about 3 copies of this card, they are all useful because I need to have some specific monsters in my grave (Metal darkness dragon, Dark horus, DAD sometimes for PoC, and wyvern from time to time). But the best way to send mosnters to grave is Future Fusion (I lost only 1 or 2 times in a duel where I used Future Fusion, despite if I can't Summon Five headed dragon)

PoC, I think it's a very good card, it was always useful?!! I always like this card in my hand, good with DAD and Metal darkness dragon, and return from another D.

I made only 1 copy of Vortex, but after testing, I found adding another vortex is obligatory, because I have a few ways to destroy monsters like marsh and spirit reaper (I have only 2*vortex+DAD). Vortex is very useful to OTK my opp. (my goal isn't to take the control of the duel with BIG atak monsters, my goal is to OTK my opp.!) Vortex help alot when my opp. has the control of the field (it saved me aloooot)

about burial, I'm not sure, maybe you're right. I'll continue testing this card (it isn't always a dead draw, it can save some times, like returning wyvern to the grave and re-using his eff)

BTH is very useful, it doesn't just destroy a monster but remove it from play, specially with Bestiari, and judgement dragon. Also, it prepare the field for an OTK the next turn.

3* D prison... I admit I just add this card because I didn't know what to add in 3 free places in this deck

about dragon's Mirror I tried it and it was the most of time a dead draw, because the most of time I have few monsters in my grave and need them there.

thank's for plaguespreader because I totally missed this card, how did I forget it?????

Gold sarc, I thought seriously about this card, but I didn't add it because I think this card give my opp. the opportunity to anticipate my next move (the most of time my next move will be to OTK him xD), then he can prepare himself to face this... Also it can be a dead draw... Anyways I'll try it.

To face an OTK I'm not very anxious until now, with all this number of traps... but maybe I'll add roar if I see it's a must (until now I was OTK only 1 time, that mean there isn't a big problemwith OTK until now)...

About Royal Oppression I'm anxious, but I have some cards in my side deck that can save in this case (but trap eater is very situational, isn't it?)
But I need to test this, because unfortunately I hadn't the chance to face a real oppression deck (it isn't very used in KCVDS 1.19, idk why????)

well, after this I think that's what I shoukd do
-1 D Prison
+1 zombie carrier
+some synchro in extra deck sure

I need to test how it will work with this:
-1 other D prison
-1 Burial
+1 Gold Sac
+Thratning roar

(I would like to remove all D prisons, but I didn't find until now a card that can take its place Neutral )

Anyways I lose few times with this deck (1/5), as long as the most of people use meta decks, but I don't know how it will work with anti meta decks confused

Thank you very much neko for helping as always with decks, you're the best deck advisor I have ever seen Wink

EDIT: WTF I didn't know I worte all this in 1/2 hour xD it's the longest post I wrote in my life. I wish someone will read it xD

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k, in response to your post:

PoC is a good card, you just don't need 3 of them is all i'm saying. It makes room for other things.
Dragons already have major issues with card advantage, so using 2 Vortex I believe hurts you even more. With the other cards I mentioned adding you can take care of cards like Reaper and Marsh. Having Synchros available to you will alone do more than Vortexes could ever do.
I never said to get rid of BTH. I said to get rid of the D Prisons. BTH should always be at 2 when possible.
For Dragon's Mirror, I don't think having a single copy will be a dead draw too often, and as I said you're already using RftDD and Burial, so I'd say a copy of this is worthwhile.
If you haven't been faced with OTK's much, then you must not have been playing many good players. Most of the meta decks are capable of OTK'ing you at a moment's notice. Roar/Waboku has been mained in every pro deck for over a year now because of this. It is definitely necessary. When your opponent clears your field and then swings for an OTK, Roar/Waboku and Gorz are really your only defenses.
If you haven't faced people using Oppression, then that is also proof you haven't been facing many good players. Any good player would see a Dragon deck and immediately side in at least 2 copies of Oppression, if not 3. Oppression will be what kills you in many a match duel. Some opponents may even side in Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror on your since you are using a lot of dark monsters. Trap Eater and Royal Decree in your side deck is the only reasonable response you have to your opponent kicking your butt with Oppression.

One last thing, you haven't tested the deck yet if you've only dueled with it 5 times. Come back and tell me you've tested it after you've dueled good players with it at least 25 times (50 times ideally).

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lol I tested it alot (more than 50 times, maybe more than 100 xD), as you see I posted it the last week.

I agree with you about I did duel reaal pro (I mean overpowered duelist, like you, techo and itc, the only overpowered one I have in mind xD).

as I said before I only need test with anti meta deck, because with meta it works very fine... about roar/waboku... I'm not sure, but I'll try it... in D Prison place at first...
about my lovely vortex that saved me alot in some very bad situations, I'll remove it for some duels, I haven't anuthing to lose if I try... but if I have feeling that my deck need it I'll re-add it.

Dragon's Mirror?? I tried it for some 10 duels the first time when I made the deck... and it failed???? I'll give it another chance (75% it won't work fine... because I dueled alot, and the most of the time I win duels with few monsters in my grave)

about Side decking to face Royal Oppression or ShadowMirror I have 3*dust tornado or 3*Breaker (will be unlimited in the new ban list xD, he's a dark monster too) in my side deck, I think it would be better than royal decree because I have some important traps in my deck (specially call of the haunted, after banning monster reborn, and Return from another Dimension, one of the most important cards in this deck), but Trap Eater... too situtional, tornado is better isn't it??
it will give me 5 cards to face 3 cards at max (heavy storm+MST+3*Dust tornado/Breaker VS 3*Royal oppression), it's fine I think

that's what I did until now
Permanent Changes
- 2 D prison (I have 0 now)
+ 2 Roar (or waboku, but I think roar is better)

Temporary changes (need test):
+ 1 Dragon's Mirror (just to retest it)
- 1 or 2 Vortex T.T (maybe they will be re-added)
- 1 Burial maybe
+ 1*Smashing ground?????? Fissure?????? any suggestion?

Remark: I wasn't going to remove my lovely vortex or add a roar if someone said it to me, except you, because I really respect you, and have trust on your deck building talents Wink

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Nice deck!
My deck is almost like your but i use different strategis.
I dont think i can give you any advices, but dragon mirror is important when you are in a long duel, and i see you have some cards in ur deck that send monsters to the graviard so it would be esey to use Dragon's mirror.
Well that's my opinion
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