What is with Ra?

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There is no active leaders, and only little active members, there is no tournaments for RA?
Something need to be changed about this...

The Exam that we prepared for those whom willing to hire dorm, like Ra or Obelisk, is made in a way that we can decide if you are sticking with your dorm for a while, getting 1 step dorm upgrade to the next dorm, or getting to obelisk right a way, it's about how many questions will you answer right, if you can't answer such an easy questions like those, believe me you will never get to Ra or even Obelisk, not mentioning the Abandoned Sackers Dorm.

anzo, what do u think of giving higher dorms some priveleges over slifers ?
i'm sure that will encourage people to consider moving up to higher dorms

King007 wrote:

anzo, what do u think of giving higher dorms some priveleges over slifers ?
i'm sure that will encourage people to consider moving up to higher dorms

How many Abandoned Dark Members do you see without Chat Powers?

King007 wrote:

anzo, what do u think of giving higher dorms some priveleges over slifers ?
i'm sure that will encourage people to consider moving up to higher dorms

That's actually a good idea.

it is true that there are some slackers in slifer sure there are in any dorm but we must all remember what jaden said "i like my red jacket it does not show dirt as bad as yellow"

novamaster500 wrote:

it is true that there are some slackers in slifer sure there are in any dorm but we must all remember what jaden said "i like my red jacket it does not show dirt as bad as yellow"

Soooooo much irony in that post. It pretty much describes exatly what this whole thread is. One Ra complained and all the dirt on the yellow jacket started coming into sight but the vast majority of slifers were already the main cause of the issue seen in Ra because of their slacking. The Red jacket is much dirtier than the yellow one but the dirt on the red jacket is not shown as clearly.

i guess you dont find it funny but i think we sould all try to get to a higher rank but some cant and everyone sould get events thats only fair but if people dont take part then what can you do no big i plan on geting to ra one day but i only started yesterday so it will still take time

gracco shut up stop going on about slifer you dumb trikkk
nuff said
ra is a bit inactive yea skylax you have no room to talk
as for every one else posting dumb ***** to make arguments just make a solid post on how helping ra out or deal it in private where only ra members or ra leaders are discussing the issue

Everyone saying for N to take over as leader when we have PowerNova, guess everyone forgot about you xD

Anyway, as for N's "promotion" to leader, while he is an excellent duelist, there is no point of hiring another leader just for the sake of hiring one if there will still be no members for them to lead. The issue doesn't lie with inactive leadership, its with people not willing to work at becoming Ra. Most members are used to the system were they join an academy, get tested and put into Obelisk/Ra then just go inactive. What we are trying to do at DA is actually HELP you as members become better duelist like a REAL academy, instead of just giving you a test and sending you are your way. As some people have proven, hard work pays off. They have passed the Slifer exams, become all around better duelists, and are now more prepared to tackle the challenge of becoming Obelisk. So for everyone saying "Whats up with Ra" or "Why are there no Ra members" you should be working harder to become better duelists at this academy and then become that Ra member yourself.

Exiled wrote:

Anyway, as for N's "promotion" to leader, while he is an excellent duelist, there is no point of hiring another leader just for the sake of hiring one if there will still be no members for them to lead. The issue doesn't lie with inactive leadership, its with people not willing to work at becoming Ra. Most members are used to the system were they join an academy, get tested and put into Obelisk/Ra then just go inactive. What we are trying to do at DA is actually HELP you as members become better duelist like a REAL academy, instead of just giving you a test and sending you are your way. As some people have proven, hard work pays off. They have passed the Slifer exams, become all around better duelists, and are now more prepared to tackle the challenge of becoming Obelisk. So for everyone saying "Whats up with Ra" or "Why are there no Ra members" you should be working harder to become better duelists at this academy and then become that Ra member yourself.

Very well said, I agree.

Exiled wrote:

Everyone saying for N to take over as leader when we have PowerNova, guess everyone forgot about you xD

Anyway, as for N's "promotion" to leader, while he is an excellent duelist, there is no point of hiring another leader just for the sake of hiring one if there will still be no members for them to lead. The issue doesn't lie with inactive leadership, its with people not willing to work at becoming Ra. Most members are used to the system were they join an academy, get tested and put into Obelisk/Ra then just go inactive. What we are trying to do at DA is actually HELP you as members become better duelist like a REAL academy, instead of just giving you a test and sending you are your way. As some people have proven, hard work pays off. They have passed the Slifer exams, become all around better duelists, and are now more prepared to tackle the challenge of becoming Obelisk. So for everyone saying "Whats up with Ra" or "Why are there no Ra members" you should be working harder to become better duelists at this academy and then become that Ra member yourself.

We need some way to get Slifers to want to become Ra, otherwise it's redundant to complain.

A lot of people just join, post intro, become active for a while, then drop dead. Nothing we can do about that. It's gunna happen.

We just need to find a way to motivate people to take and pass the Slifer Ra exam.
I havez an idea, but it may be controversial.

The BA has seen a tremendous amount of activity. I say we use the BA to make people want to rank up.
It may prove to be helpful to change the BA awarding system, so that-
Slifer- 20 DP per duel win
Ra- 30 DP per duel win
Obby & up- 40 DP per duel win
(DP rewards really open for Amy to decide, I'm just throwing out numbers.)
(*We could also change the rewarding rates based upon who is dueling who. Like if a Slifer beats an Obby, they get 40 DP per win. If a Obby beats a Slifer, they get 20 DP per win. The above system would be Slifer vs. Slifer, Ra vs Ra, Obby vs Obby. But again, open for debate/Amy's approval.)

I'm digging the BA idea a lot EHero, It gives it that extra kick that it needs.

i keep telling you ! to motivate slifers u need to give previliges to higher dorms, coz no slifer is going to bother upgrading if nothing will change for the better for him, the yellow or blue color of the name isn't really motivating for a slifer to take the test or try hard to pass it !!!

Ra and Obi should have advantages over slifers !!!

I partially agree with Etheroduelist. Just to little modify what you said. For example:
If Slifer beats Obelisk or RA he get 20 DP.
If RA beats Slifer or obelisk he get 30DP.
If Obelisk beats Slifer or RA he get 40DP.

This can be one privilege, but I agree completly with King007.That is true reason why there isnt many RA. There should be some advantages

skylax the point system u suggested should go the other way around coz slifers should be rewarded by the difficulty of each dorm they face if u know what i mean

i don't think the priveleges should lie in the point system, but in ability to participate in tourneys or events...

SkylaX wrote:

I partially agree with Etheroduelist. Just to little modify what you said. For example:
If Slifer beats Obelisk or RA he get 20 DP.
If RA beats Slifer or obelisk he get 30DP.
If Obelisk beats Slifer or RA he get 40DP.

This can be one privilege, but I agree completly with King007.That is true reason why there isnt many RA. There should be some advantages

I considered that system before posting my own, and while it might work, it overly puts Slifers at a disadvantage. If we make being a Slifer suck too bad, everyone will try to upgrade to Ra/Obby.

Everyone. meaning now Slifer would be empty, and Ra and Obby would be full. Also, shouldn't a Slifer be given a slightly better DP reward rate for beating someone who is supposedly a higher skill level than themselves?

I think my system is better in that-
1- Being a Slifer still kinda sucks.
2- Being a higher dorm level is adequately better.

We'll need a bit more than just a minor DP awarding change to get the dorms more active, but it's a good start imo.

N would be a good consideration for leader in the future when more Ra's happen. Right now Nova is active but i have not seen staxx around at all. The duel arena points thing sounds good and actually a little over due. Many other acads already have a similar BA reward system in place. Also the dorm advantage thing is a very touchy topic. It is definitely do-able but doing it right is tricky as heck. And to the above post. I see nothing wrong with a mass slifer migration. DA is the first result in a google search for DA's and there are a looooot of slifers. Between new members joining and inactive slifers the dorm will never ever be empty even if there was a chance random mass slifer--ra migration.

N becoming a leader isn't very much in question, but is he able to do the job?
I can see him being considered due to his dueling skills, but I don't know if he's patient enough to do the job in question. I think he'd at least be worth the chance though.

As for the dorm advantage being a touchy topic, I think that we need a dorm advantage is a necessity to make people want to rank up. The controversy lies not with the advantage itself, but instead with the shift from normal to disadvantaged. I figure some Slifers would not be happy with having normal privledges, then having them taken away.

I think we need to definitely consider not downgrading the Slifers, but upgrading Ra & Obby to where people would want to rank up.

As for the mass Slifer-->Ra migration issue, I fear it would leave Slifer with only a mass of test-taking failures and dead members.


I warn you, this next idea will be bashed horrendously and is probably controversial amongst staff/people:

Bring dueling testing back, but not in the general way most would think.
(This is due to the fact I particularly enjoy the whole idea of "testing", and it's more like the show.)

Here's my idea on that matter:
Slifer--> Ra test:
1- The normal written exam costing the normal price of DP
or
2- a duel test where a tester duels the individual in match format with tester's deck rules. (etc, etc, you all know what it is.)
This would cost double (or just more. open for debate/Amy approval) what the written exam costs. (Maybe the extra DP could go to the tester?)

Ra---> Obby test:
1- Written exam. Nothing more, nothing less?

Also, considering that the Ra-->Obby test requirement is to top 4 in at least 16 person tournament or Top 8 in at least 32 person tournament or Top 16 in at least 64 person tournament, we should either have more tournaments or make this a tad easier to achieve, or get rid of the requirement entirely.

oh god how much facepalm in here. It's not like Slifers dont wanna rank up. They want to but they are incapable of passinf the exam as much as i have seen. So something has to be done by teaching them actual stuff not putting them into the worst scenario possible to urge them to rank up.

Sanji speaks truth. Also the current testing system is fine as it is but if a considerable amount of ra's do happen then holding more 16+ man tournies then would be nice.

So we pressure the teachers to start working with Slifers?

Teachers should already help Slifers, that should come hand-in-hand with being a Teacher. Though I can not speak for other Teachers, I had put forth a good amount of time answering questions and assisting Slifers outside the Classroom. If anything, you need to pressure the current roster of Teachers to actually meet the requirements of the rank.

Yes, you can make slight improvements here and there, but in the end it comes down to the initiative of the individual. If the Slifers aren't willing to put the time in and learn, that's on their head. Not the Teachers, the Dorm Leaders, or the Testing System. In my opinion.

Zane Truesdale wrote:

Teachers should already help Slifers, that should come hand-in-hand with being a Teacher. Though I can not speak for other Teachers, I had put forth a good amount of time answering questions and assisting Slifers outside the Classroom. If anything, you need to pressure the current roster of Teachers to actually meet the requirements of the rank.

Yes, you can make slight improvements here and there, but in the end it comes down to the initiative of the individual. If the Slifers aren't willing to put the time in and learn, that's on their head. Not the Teachers, the Dorm Leaders, or the Testing System. In my opinion.

gotta say, he does have a point.

Okay, we all knew that already. Tests are good and nothing wrong with them. Slifers dont want to advance because they DONT SEE advantages of becaming RA. That is key word here, so if Ra and Obelisk would have some advantages over the Slifers, then they will put big effort to pass that test.

Now we could propose all advantages that could be good for Ra and Obelisk, and best of them Head admin can pick and start poll.

Isnt the acknowledge of the higher rank enough?

Nearly empty Ra dorm answers that question. xD

We should not forget the influence of Yugioh GX on Slifer Red.

Jaden never left Slifer Red, and some people just want to be like him. We have other people like me, that just duel for fun.

I've won about 4 games with people in the Academy, yet I never post it. Because I duel for the fun, not to be higher rank or to be at a better dorm.

Eheroduelist wrote:

Nearly empty Ra dorm answers that question. xD

well said :D

Eheroduelist wrote:

Nearly empty Ra dorm answers that question. xD

http://www.duelacademy.net/f82-test-center <- When u could check this section you might see that members try to rank up but the fail in the test so its not the matter of placing Slifers in worse situation. They just dont have enough knowledge to rank up.