My Blackwings

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Last edited by bombboy1252 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:35 am; edited 2 times in total

-2 Breeze
-2 Kochi
-1 Vayu
-2 Solemn Warning
-1 Burial from a Different Dimension

+3 Blizzard
+1 Gladius
+2 Bottomless Trap Hole
+2 Pot of Duality

Something like this

Yamisly wrote:

-2 Breeze
-2 Kochi
-1 Vayu
-2 Solemn Warning
-1 Burial from a Different Dimension

+3 Blizzard
+1 Gladius
+2 Bottomless Trap Hole
+2 Pot of Duality

Something like this

I absolutely love Kochi, he's incredibly good. You just normal summon him from your hand, SS bora, and synchro for Stardust/Dark end dragon. Or, you special summon with Shuras effect, and you Xyz into Roach....People really under-rate that card....

I also like Breeze, but not as much as I like Kochi, I might drop him, Breeze is only helpful if you have black whirlwind on the field......and since Whirlwind is only at 1 this format....It doesn't pop up as much as you'd like.....

Dropping the Warnings for Bottomlesses sounds like a much better idea, thanks. The reason I run Burial from a different dimension is so I can recycle Vayu's effect, and put the card I banished from Allure, back into my graveyard.

Also, I already run 3 Blizzards....

I really don't Like gladius that much, if I wanted a card I could use for defense, I would just use Spirit reaper/marshmallon.

I tried running 3x Duality before, didn't really help that much. The lack of special summoning on the turn you use it really slows down your deck.....I might add 1 more though......

Any other suggestions?

I personally love gladius more than i thought i would. It has become a free synchro material when i draw breeze, or that extra monster to turn a level 6 synch into a mist worm.

Also, it + blizzard = a T.G. hyper librarian or any other Level 5 Synchro...

But enough on Glad... I also think you may need to expand the amount of draw power. Blackwings have access to Allure, POD, and Cards for Black Feathers, all of which combo nicely together. So think about making it 1/2/2 or 1/3/2. It will help you get to what you need faster, trust me!

quincymccoy wrote:

I personally love gladius more than i thought i would. It has become a free synchro material when i draw breeze, or that extra monster to turn a level 6 synch into a mist worm.

Also, it + blizzard = a T.G. hyper librarian or any other Level 5 Synchro...

But enough on Glad... I also think you may need to expand the amount of draw power. Blackwings have access to Allure, POD, and Cards for Black Feathers, all of which combo nicely together. So think about making it 1/2/2 or 1/3/2. It will help you get to what you need faster, trust me!

I've heard people really don't like Cards for Black feathers, also, I have an Allure, i might try another Duality....What would you suggest I drop for it?

DO NOT swap solemn W with BTH that is a horrible idea if you ahve to pick betwee solemn W and BTH pick solemn W and put BTH in side, nuff said there

anyway when it comes to BW i pefer vayu turbo myself...... so i'll jsut help with the spell and traps....well mabye i'll get you to add in mosnter

- 1 icarus (3 just leads to dead draws)
- 1 comp device (move to side if you want it but there are better main deck traps right now, but you ahve to amny traps as is though only run 5-7 if you dont play on running starlight)
- 1 delsta crow
- 1 POD


+ 1 vayu
+ 2 grepher or amrma knight

this is jsut what i pefer for BWs

New update!

---Monsters---
3x Shura
3x Bora
3x Blizzard
2x Gladius
1x Breeze
2x kochi
1x Sirocco
2x Vayu
1x Gale
1x Kalut
1x Dark Armed Dragon

total - 20

---Spells---

2x MST
1x Monster reborn
1x dark hole
1x Heavy storm
1x Allure of darkness
2x Pot of duality
1x Pot of avarice
1x Black whirlwind
1x Burial from a different dimension

Total - 11

---Traps---

2x Icarus attack
2x Dimensional Prison
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgement
2x Starlight road


Total - 9

---Extra---

2x Silverwind
2x armor master
2x Armed wing
2x Stardust dragon
2x Vortex the whirlwind
1x Brionac
1x Dark end dragon
1x Steelswarm roach
1x Verz ouroboros
1x Verz Thanatos

total - 15

---Side Deck---

3x Thunder King Rai-Oh
3x Effect veiler
2x D.D Crow
2x United we stand
2x Bottomless Trap hole
2x Summon limit
1x BLS- Envoy

Total - 15

bombboy1252 wrote:

New update!

---Monsters---
3x Shura
3x Bora
3x Blizzard
2x Gladius
1x Breeze
2x kochi
1x Sirocco
2x Vayu
1x Gale
1x Kalut
1x Dark Armed Dragon

total - 20

---Spells---

2x MST
1x Monster reborn
1x dark hole
1x Heavy storm
1x Allure of darkness
2x Pot of duality
1x Pot of avarice
1x Black whirlwind
1x Burial from a different dimension

Total - 11

---Traps---

2x Icarus attack
2x Dimensional Prison
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgement
2x Starlight road


Total - 9

---Extra---

2x Silverwind
2x armor master
2x Armed wing
2x Stardust dragon
2x Vortex the whirlwind
1x Brionac
1x Dark end dragon
1x Steelswarm roach
1x Verz ouroboros
1x Verz Thanatos

total - 15

---Side Deck---

3x Thunder King Rai-Oh
3x Effect veiler
2x D.D Crow
2x United we stand
2x Bottomless Trap hole
2x Summon limit
1x BLS- Envoy

Total - 15

Don't run 2 Gladius, 1 is enough. +1 Sirocco instead.

---Another update!---

---Monsters---
3x Shura
3x Bora
3x Blizzard
1x Breeze
2x kochi
2x Sirocco
2x Vayu
1x Gale
1x Kalut
1x Dark Armed Dragon
1x Gorz

total - 20

---Spells---

2x MST
1x Monster reborn
1x dark hole
1x Heavy storm
1x Allure of darkness
2x Pot of duality
1x Pot of avarice
1x Black whirlwind
1x Burial from a different dimension

Total - 11

---Traps---

2x Icarus attack
2x Dimensional Prison
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgement
2x Starlight road


Total - 9

---Extra---

2x Silverwind
2x armor master
2x Armed wing
2x Stardust dragon
1x Brionac
1x Dark end dragon
2x Utopia
1x Steelswarm roach
1x Verz ouroboros
1x Verz Thanatos

total - 15

---Side Deck---

3x Thunder King Rai-Oh
3x Effect veiler
2x D.D Crow
2x United we stand
2x Bottomless Trap hole
2x Summon limit
1x BLS- Envoy

Total - 15

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I tried Gladius, but I didn't really like him that much, also, I love Gorz.....

New update! I've been playing with this build now, and I think it's the best yet!

---Monsters---

1x Gorz
1x Dark armed dragon
3x Shura
3x Bora
3x Blizzard
2x Sirocco
2x Vayu
1x Gale
1x kalut
1x Zephyros

Total: 18

---Spells---

2x pot of duality
2x Enemy controller
1x Dark hole
1x heavy storm
1x Monster reborn
1x book of moon
1x Allure of darkness
1x Pot of avarice
1x Black whirlwind
1x Burial from a different dimension

Total: 12

---Traps---

2x Bottomless Trap hole
2x Fiendish Chain
2x Icarus attack
2x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn judgement
1x Starlight road

Total: 10

---Extra---

2x Armed wing
2x Armor master
2x Silverwind
1x Dark end dragon
1x Brionac
2x Stardust dragon
2x vortex the whirlwind (I'm using this until I know of a better LVL 5 to throw in)
1x Steelswarm Roach
2x Utopia

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So, any thoughts?

Last edited by bombboy1252 on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:17 pm; edited 1 time in total

-2 D Prison

+2 Bottomless

Exiled wrote:

-2 D Prison

+2 Bottomless

Added in your suggestion to the above list...

On a happy note, I just won my first game against Inzektors with this list.....made me a happy camper......

Drop 2 E-Con and a Sirrocco for triple MST. You probably will use icarus on enemy monsters, and E-Con seems wasteful. If you want, use Mind Control instead.

My newest update!

Veiler is so good with prio out now so maybe:

-2 of either Bottomless or Torrential or any combination between the two for 2 veiler

Drop 1 Blizzard, 2-3 traps and 1 Sirocco ti add 2 Raioh, 2 Veiler and BLS. It works great.

excuse my noobiness but what is the synchro monster next to utopia

Exiled wrote:

Veiler is so good with prio out now so maybe:

-2 of either Bottomless or Torrential or any combination between the two for 2 veiler

I'm trying to make this deck in real life, and I'm very poor, being 17 with no job and all.....Kinda hard to afford veilers.....

Ruby wrote:

Drop 1 Blizzard, 2-3 traps and 1 Sirocco ti add 2 Raioh, 2 Veiler and BLS. It works great.

Ya, I've run BLS in blackwings before, it worked well, but I didn't like playing it very much, it felt.....weird.

germanfan23 wrote:

excuse my noobiness but what is the synchro monster next to utopia

Vortex the whirlwind, when he's destroyed by battle I can special summon a lvl 4 or lower winged beast from my deck.

Nice. Maybe replace Warning with Compulsory Evacuation Device.

Needs more hand-traps (veiler preferable so you can put BLS).

I like my vayu at 1, and i don't like zypheros (or w/e his name is ^^), but that's my preference after testing.

The extra deck needs work. I mean, with that much lv 6 synchro potential, i'd put more variety in my lv 6 monsters, like gaia. Where's catastor? You have mind control, put utopia ray instead of either roach, 2nd utopia, or that lv 5 winged beast (1 of it is already too many). 1 of that lv 8 BW monster is also enough (silver whatever it's called).

Those are my quick fixes ^^

Yamisly wrote:

Nice. Maybe replace Warning with Compulsory Evacuation Device.

The thing with compulsory, is it's only really effective on Synchros/fusions/Xyz, but warning is good against anything, lets say they pop down a DaD, if I compulsory it he would just SS it again, but if i solemn it....he's dead. Ya, he can still bring it back, but probably not again that turn.....I'm still thinking about adding a compulse, but not trading it for solemn warnings....

Coolchemist wrote:

Needs more hand-traps (veiler preferable so you can put BLS).

I like my vayu at 1, and i don't like zypheros (or w/e his name is ^^), but that's my preference after testing.

The extra deck needs work. I mean, with that much lv 6 synchro potential, i'd put more variety in my lv 6 monsters, like gaia. Where's catastor? You have mind control, put utopia ray instead of either roach, 2nd utopia, or that lv 5 winged beast (1 of it is already too many). 1 of that lv 8 BW monster is also enough (silver whatever it's called).

Those are my quick fixes ^^

i went over why i don't like running BLS in blackwings, so i'm not going to re-state that.

I personally love Vayu at 2, he's such a good card in my opinion....several of my plays revolve around him. Also, the same thing with Zephyros, He's a quick utopia if he's in the grave and I normal summon bora.... Bounce bora, SS zephyros, SS bora, Xyz into utopia, or a quick LVL 7 synchro with Gale.....

I'll take some of your advice on the extra deck, I was asking earlier about help with that.... Catastor I'll definetly add in, as with Utopia ray. Gaia is kinda, meh in my opinion, just because he lack an effect. but I do have an extra Gaia, so i'll throw him in for the time being.....

BLS is one of those cards that single handedly change the tide of the game, and Blackwing decks like to thrive on such. Dark Armed Dragon, BLS or Armor Master ; these all do quite harm to the opponent and after their destructive actions, your opponen has to invest further resources to bring them down.

i would take out an icarus attack because 3 is to much and lead to dead draws if you have to run icarus always run 2 no more no less

i would either take out a MST or take out heavy, i say the heavy because you running alot of traps

BoM isnt really that great atm so i would take it out

and i would put in a single SRL and 2 swallows nest (great card to chain to toriental, BTH, mirror force, d-priosn ect......)

as for extra well there alot of helpp needed there ._.

- 1 stardsut (you only usually need 1 for most decks)
- 2 silverwing (just dont play him cause he sucks)
- 1 utopia (all you need are 2 rank 4 XYZs i think :/)
- 1 vortex (you only need 1)

+ 1 BAM or BRD whichever you can get
+ 1 catastor
+ 1 scrap dragon if you can get afford it if not then gor colosal fighter
+ 1 thought ruler
+ 1 iron chain dragon or flamvell urquazils (or w/e its called) or gaia (great dude to use to run over famous 2500 beaters like stardust or shien)

mimgrim wrote:

i would take out an icarus attack because 3 is to much and lead to dead draws if you have to run icarus always run 2 no more no less

i would either take out a MST or take out heavy, i say the heavy because you running alot of traps

BoM isnt really that great atm so i would take it out

and i would put in a single SRL and 2 swallows nest (great card to chain to toriental, BTH, mirror force, d-priosn ect......)

as for extra well there alot of helpp needed there ._.

- 1 stardsut (you only usually need 1 for most decks)
- 2 silverwing (just dont play him cause he sucks)
- 1 utopia (all you need are 2 rank 4 XYZs i think :/)
- 1 vortex (you only need 1)

+ 1 BAM or BRD whichever you can get
+ 1 catastor
+ 1 scrap dragon if you can get afford it if not then gor colosal fighter
+ 1 thought ruler
+ 1 iron chain dragon or flamvell urquazils (or w/e its called) or gaia (great dude to use to run over famous 2500 beaters like stardust or shien)

What are you talking about BoM isn't that great, I've won games off BoM. It's great against inzektors.

I run 2 silverwinds because of Vayu, i'll probably drop that down to 1 silverwind though....

to me BoM is a card to use if you need to fill up space but if there are better cards to use instead then use them instead, plus swallows nest can be chained to inzekotrs to <_< but if you dont want to take it out thats fine jsut try to make room for 2 swallows nest <_<

I broke down and added Envoy, I just found out my friend is going to be playing Inzektors, so I need every cheep trick I can get.....

The side deck is based around what my friends are going to be playing, 2 Ally of justice Cycle readers for when I play against lightsworns. 3 D.D crows, 2 chain disappearances, and 2 crevice into the different dimension for my inzektor match-up, Chimeratech fortress because my other friend is getting a machine deck with 3X cyber dragons in it....and a Black-winged dragon in case i go up against a burn deck........

hmmm, might I suggest finding room for a third icarus? It is just too good of a card not to run.

I run a deck similar to this, may i suggest adding 1 or 2 Dark eruptions, along with a Foolish Burial to feed Vayu's effect as well as a mirror force, Elphin, and blackback. Although, my deck Revolves around vayu's effect, i think your BW deck is well rounded, but has many weaknesses.