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Got my invite in Edison yesterday with Agents. Thought about playing rabbit, but i didnt wanna go through mirrors all day. And i ended up playing against 3 rabbits in a row.





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3 Master Hyperion
3 The Agent of Creation - Venus
3 The Agent of Mystery - Earth
3 Tour Guide From The Underworld
3 Mystical Shine Ball
3 Maxx C
2 Spirit Reaper
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
1 Archlord Kristya
1 Sangan
1 Honest
1 Black Luster Solider - Envoy of The Beginning
1 Gorz, Emissary Of Darkness

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2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book Of Moon
1 Dark Hole
1 Mind Control
1 Monster Reborn
1 Heavy Storm

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2 Solemn Warning
2 Fiendish Chain
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Trap Dustshoot

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1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Ancient Fairy Dragon
1 Armory Arm
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Gaia Knight Force Of Earth
1 T.G. Hyper Librarian
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Leviair the Sea Dragon
1 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
1 Wind-Up Zenmaines
2 Gachi Gachi Gentetsu

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2 Cyber Dragon
2 Gemini Imps
2 Smashing Ground
2 Dimensional Prison
1 D.D Crow
1 Leeching The Light
1 Spirit Reaper
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Royal Decree
1 Dust Tornado
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Was supposed to be 1 Black Horn, a 3rd TKing, and a 2nd Decree in the side over the imps and dust, but couldnt find any horns or decrees to borrow and the rest of my tkings were on lend.

like fiendish in the main much better than prison against rabbit and the mirror. especially after Order Of Chaos

uhmm, have you tried a 2nd Reaper in the side??, I use 2 in my side to "counter" Rabbits and it has worked wonders for me. I mean when I side in one it usually ends up coming to me too late, maybe thats just DN or my bad luck but meh.

I would probably use it over the Dust Tornado in the side.

EDIT: Why not a 2nd Kristya in main...?

Oh hey, did you get a mat?
I did. I have like, what 7 regional mats?
In any case, gjgj with your one invite.
hope to see you at nats.

Ouch harb way to ruin his achievement haha xD . in any case, way to go dude! we'll all be cheering for every one at nats here at DA =D

Harbinger wrote:

Oh hey, did you get a mat?
I did. I have like, what 7 regional mats?
In any case, gjgj with your one invite.
hope to see you at nats.

pics or gtfo

anyway, good job and nice deck. I would tech a junk synchron in there, but that's just me.

The_Dutch_Prince wrote:

uhmm, have you tried a 2nd Reaper in the side??, I use 2 in my side to "counter" Rabbits and it has worked wonders for me. I mean when I side in one it usually ends up coming to me too late, maybe thats just DN or my bad luck but meh.

I would probably use it over the Dust Tornado in the side.

EDIT: Why not a 2nd Kristya in main...?

Maining 2, siding the 3rd reaper. Pretty amazing right now. Only 1 Kristya in the main because there isnt any room for the 2nd, and it gets too cloggy outside of pure builds and when you dont main things like tragoedia.

Harbinger wrote:

Oh hey, did you get a mat?
I did. I have like, what 7 regional mats?
In any case, gjgj with your one invite.
hope to see you at nats.

I didnt top 8 this one so no. I only have the essidiari left mat from the last time i topped. I'm lost at "one invite" because i haven't been playing at all much this format, and ive been playing competitively just recently 2010-11 where i topped twice. And if its on the East Coast again, ill be goin.Next event im goin to is the jump in phily in may.

Jaden_yuki-- wrote:

Ouch harb way to ruin his achievement haha xD . in any case, way to go dude! we'll all be cheering for every one at nats here at DA =D

Topping a regional doesnt mean that much. Regardless was it supposed to ruin it? If so i fail to see the point, as well as any reason to care. just sayin

Abominable wrote:

anyway, good job and nice deck. I would tech a junk synchron in there, but that's just me.

No room for that, and its more of a preference anyways depending on the build.



Last edited by RebornShadow on Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:01 pm; edited 1 time in total

RebornShadow wrote:

The_Dutch_Prince wrote:

uhmm, have you tried a 2nd Reaper in the side??, I use 2 in my side to "counter" Rabbits and it has worked wonders for me. I mean when I side in one it usually ends up coming to me too late, maybe thats just DN or my bad luck but meh.

I would probably use it over the Dust Tornado in the side.

EDIT: Why not a 2nd Kristya in main...?

Maining 2, siding the 3rd reaper. Pretty amazing right now. Only 1 Kristya in the main because there isnt any room for the 2nd, and it gets too cloggy outside of pure builds and when you dont main things like tragoedia.

Actually missed that you had the other 2 Reapers in main as well ... lol ( bit sleepy ). I guess you have a fair point regarding Kristya, although I myself still prefer to run 2 copies of it in my TGU Agents on DN.

Have you been using this since 01-11..? seeing it is important to know judging from the fact you/we would need to most accurate data of your match-ups ... in order to be of help in "perfecting" the deck.

The_Dutch_Prince wrote:

RebornShadow wrote:

The_Dutch_Prince wrote:

uhmm, have you tried a 2nd Reaper in the side??, I use 2 in my side to "counter" Rabbits and it has worked wonders for me. I mean when I side in one it usually ends up coming to me too late, maybe thats just DN or my bad luck but meh.

I would probably use it over the Dust Tornado in the side.

EDIT: Why not a 2nd Kristya in main...?

Maining 2, siding the 3rd reaper. Pretty amazing right now. Only 1 Kristya in the main because there isnt any room for the 2nd, and it gets too cloggy outside of pure builds and when you dont main things like tragoedia.

Actually missed that you had the other 2 Reapers in main as well ... lol ( bit sleepy ). I guess you have a fair point regarding Kristya, although I myself still prefer to run 2 copies of it in my TGU Agents on DN.

Have you been using this since 01-11..? seeing it is important to know judging from the fact you/we would need to most accurate data of your match-ups ... in order to be of help in "perfecting" the deck.

Ive actually just recently started using this build since i got bored of plants and wasnt feelin rabbit that much. I was originally playing 2 prisons in the main but chain w3as more suited against rabbit and in the mirror. a few notable players agreed on the Chain > Prison atm as well as post ORCS.

But I wont be sticking with the deck for long since i dont plan on holding my tgus. theres this build going around on the east coast, thats tguless, and mains 3 fiendish. Im most likely gonna be running that for the remainder of the format.

Interesting choice. Although regarding the Chains > Prison I can certainly see why the preference goes in favor of Fiendish Chain. And yet I have some doubt if my understanding is good enough. I mean if even I am able to see why Fiendish Chain is better this frmat than Dimensional Prison ( me, a person of only avarage understanding of the game and know-how ) how can other real life notable players not have seen it yet?, that leaves me thinking though.

As for the TGUless build. I have seen a "version" of the deck and I have to say it looks pretty solid, but why without TGU? Are you changing it up because you feel that Chains are becoming more popular and that it would leave you with a weak monster on the board or would have something to do with Maxx "C", which I don't see the reason for?

Anyway the build you posted looks solid as well.

I wouldn't say that chain is overall the better choice in place of prison, since prison put in a lot of work this format. Its just with rabbit becoming more popular, fiendish chain does more in that matchup. Right now i think its more of preference.

However, post ORCS, fiendish chain will definitely be the better card, with prison doing nohing to decks like inzektors or wind ups. But the formats coming to a close anyways so its not gonna matter in the long run, depending on march format.

And im changing it up because im not keeping tour guides on my person. I already sold mine. I'm borrowing my teamamates right now, but he wants to sell them. And I wont be picking them up again for the rest of the format. So that version a strong alternative if you dont own tour guide. The deck itself has a strong matchup against rabbit and against inzektors.

I see your point regarding Chain and post ORCS. The thing I do not fully understand is why you would want to get rid of your play set of TGU. I mean sure you DO NOT HAVE to use it in Agents for the build to be good or consistent. But overall I myself would "cling" onto them for future decks or even a secundairy deck. But knowing you, you must have a reason .. lol

Its not safe to keep them right now. Chance is there for reprint, people aren't picking them up or selling them for as much as before, plus Im not going to Atlanta so i figure no point in keeping them atm. If anything and nothing changes in march, i can always pick them back up again.

why don't you run at least 1 Veiler or in my case I run 1 herald and 1 veiler? Herald to discard easy 2 for Krist. I think maybe a duality would be good here too.

kyosuke kiryu wrote:

why don't you run at least 1 Veiler or in my case I run 1 herald and 1 veiler? Herald to discard easy 2 for Krist. I think maybe a duality would be good here too.

There was really no room for 1 veiler. However I was maining when i was maining 2 prisons over the chains. And since i see more rabbit than anything, the 3 maxx c was enough. Veiler is also not that good in general atm against various matchups, and i have the fiendish chains so im not in a rush to main it. Post order of chaos though i will be maining veiler though, but probably just 1.

And herald is awful outside of pure builds. Even then, theres not much need for it, but it is a preference of anything. You cant always afford the -2.especially against plants and rabbit where they also have another play. and then there are times when im forced to discarded and then i have nothing left to work with Maxx C does a better job than this also

I'm currently running 3 duality Tour guide-less build. Here wouldnt work out as much since you special summon more often, and already have multiple opening plays thanks to Tour guide, so im already doing enough deck thinning in this build.