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[Discussion] New shadoll fusionmonster

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First topic message reminder :

So i stumbled upon this card, im not sure if it's a teaser or whatnot, but i find it interesting and would love sum ideas ^-^

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1 "Shaddoll" monster + 1 FIRE monster
Must first be Fusion Summoned. When your opponent would Special Summon a monster(s): You can negate the Summon, and if you do, destroy it, then, send 1 "Shaddoll" card from your hand to the Graveyard. You can only use this effect of "El Shaddoll Grystal" once per turn. If this card is sent to the Graveyard: You can target 1 "Shaddoll" Spell/Trap Card in your Graveyard; add that target to your hand.


Besides the shadoll decks that'll have just a few fire monsters to keep the deck "pure", what else can you guys see people using? Firefist shadolls? battlin boxer shadolls? >.<

wiki link: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/El_Shaddoll_Grystal

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Gremlin wrote:
that 1 special summon perturn does nothing to evilswarms

So Train,2 vs 1?

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Thy Lord Ophion wrote:
Gremlin wrote:
that 1 special summon perturn does nothing to evilswarms

So Train,2 vs 1?


If Midrash was able to get on the field first, wouldn't Evilswarn have some issues with bringing out Ophion? It feels like it is a matter of who can get who out first. Of course, Shadolls still have their flip effects to use like Shadoll Dragon's or Shadoll Lizard's bounce and destroy effects respectively.

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Luna wrote:
Thy Lord Ophion wrote:
Gremlin wrote:
that 1 special summon perturn does nothing to evilswarms

So Train,2 vs 1?


If Midrash was able to get on the field first, wouldn't Evilswarn have some issues with bringing out Ophion? It feels like it is a matter of who can get who out first. Of course, Shadolls still have their flip effects to use like Shadoll Dragon's or Shadoll Lizard's bounce and destroy effects respectively.

Evilswarm uses "Normal Summons" to get 2 Evilswarms on fiend Ophion asks as an "tribute".

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and do I have to remind you that Ophion only stops the summons of level 5 or higher monsters while XYZ have no such limitation plus the existence of rank up magic makes Ophion easy to get rid of nowadays while shadolls do not have such a weakness. Also they can summon both fusions in the same turn....f*ck that lock....

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Evilswarm can handle Xyz decks...

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Train Heartnet wrote:
and do I have to remind you that Ophion only stops the summons of level 5 or higher monsters while XYZ have no such limitation plus the existence of rank up magic makes Ophion easy to get rid of nowadays while shadolls do not have such a weakness. Also they can summon both fusions in the same turn....f*ck that lock....


Well if we were to summon both fusion monsters in the same turn, we would have to run an extra fusion spell card. Shadoll Fusion can only be used once per turn.

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^you would have to in order to use the new fusions to their full potential anyway

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Super Poly,done~.

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Train Heartnet wrote:
^you would have to in order to use the new fusions to their full potential anyway


Yes, and that would require us to draw them/draw a searcher (in this case Shadoll Hedgehog). XYZ is still generally easier than fusion as you only need the monsters rather than a spell card to do it. Of course, if you are lucky enough to draw them, it gets a lot nicer.

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As if the deck doesn't already have amazing search power >_>

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Train Heartnet wrote:
As if the deck doesn't already have amazing search power >_>


In terms of search power, Luna finds it to be okay and lackluster when compared to decks like Spellbooks. Spellbooks have Crescent, Magician, and Secrets, along with Master to copy Secrets or Crescent. Shadolls need to draw a hedgehog and get it flipped to immediately add Shadoll Fusion into their hand. Hedgehog is the once search real search card as it adds a shadoll spell/trap when flipped and adds one shadoll monster except another hedgehog to your hand when it is sent to the graveyard by card effect. What they do excel at is recycling their Shadoll spells/traps thus allowing them to reuse the same one repeatedly.

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Ophion+DarkLaw is gonna be a pain in the ass tho

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I don't even know how shadoll works #retiredsince2013

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@N,you are a bloddy genious,I want to see your make an Evilswarm/Hero deck.You can't play counter strategy versus shadows using 3+ cards from ze side.You can only do that by disabling their plays using Extra Deck monsters,Stun Cards (That are in your main) and Shadow-Imp/Debunk.
Aggro deck's (AKA Mindless decks) you like to play can't compete versus them.Control and Stun is what makes the duel vs Shadolls a fair game.
@Centrik
-fells-

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@Skit: Just run 3 form change in Evilswarm.

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You can't do that,as you won't Special Summon an HERO fusion.
Summoner Monk + Shadow Mist = Mask Change = Dark Lawn.
That could happen,but I'm not sure in what "Number" to run them.
My bet's 2 Monks 2 Shadow Mist 1-2 Mask Change,dunno how that would affect Ewilswarm.

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