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Total 40
Monsters 19
3x Sirocco
3x Shura
3x Bora
3x Kalut
3x Blizzard
2x Vayu
Gale
DaD

Spells 10
2x Book of Moon
2x MST
Monster Reborn
CFBF
Allure
PoD
BWW
Dark Hole

Traps 11
3x Icarus
2x BTH
Royal Oppression
Mirror Force
Delta Crow
Solemn Judgment
Solemn Warning
Seven Tools

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-1 Vayu
+1 Pot of Duality

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-1 Royall Oppression
-1 solemn judgment
-1 CFBF

+1 gorz
+1 solemn warning
+1 Allure Of Darkness

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He already has Allure

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i would def put in another duality however i cant afford one at the moment

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- 1 mst, u have icarus and seven tools, 1 mst is enough

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Vongola-x wrote:
- 1 mst, u have icarus and seven tools, 1 mst is enough


No 1 mst is not enough. Mst should be played in 2s now due to the overwhelming backrows, Royal Decree and Necrovalley running more rampant. The time for not using this card alot early format is over.

Any good player will play around Icarus attack. You should never count on Icarus attack as your only out. Especially since if its played wrong it becomes a one for one instead of a plus. Similar reasoning behind seven tools.

Placido wrote:
-1 Royall Oppression
-1 solemn judgment
-1 CFBF

+1 gorz
+1 solemn warning
+1 Allure Of Darkness


Royal oppression and Solemn Judgment are extra outs to a lot of things this format. In which you only side either or out in game 2 when the appropriate matchup is at hand. He can keep the single cards for black feathers, simply because he only has 1 duality. Even though 1 duality is enough and CFBF is a bad card for multiple reasons, but thats neither here nor there. Point is is justified.

Gorz is terrible once you play test, Solemn Warning is essential: Additional out.

Anyways back to the deck 1 Vayu is enough. 2 Looks "Ok" on paper, but its terrible overall.

Add the 3rd book of moon. 2-3 is a prefrance, and with the decline in Trap Stun over the month, and playing over certain things 3 is only good if its good for you, still one of the best cards this format. And if you had multiple dualities, you could get away with 2, but your engine is limited so 3 is the way to go.

Delta Crow is only good against Bad players. It is fairly easy for anyone with common sense to play around BWs once they know you are playing it. Keep Delta in the side, and side it in if you go through game 1 with heavy back rows from the opportune and/or they suck. Unless your area has players like that then by all means main it. And main a 2nd warning if you can afford it.

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RebornShadow wrote:
Vongola-x wrote:
- 1 mst, u have icarus and seven tools, 1 mst is enough


No 1 mst is not enough. Mst should be played in 2s now due to the overwhelming backrows, Royal Decree and Necrovalley running more rampant. The time for not using this card alot early format is over.

Any good player will play around Icarus attack. You should never count on Icarus attack as your only out. Especially since if its played wrong it becomes a one for one instead of a plus. Similar reasoning behind seven tools.

Placido wrote:
-1 Royall Oppression
-1 solemn judgment
-1 CFBF

+1 gorz
+1 solemn warning
+1 Allure Of Darkness


Royal oppression and Solemn Judgment are extra outs to a lot of things this format. In which you only side either or out in game 2 when the appropriate matchup is at hand. He can keep the single cards for black feathers, simply because he only has 1 duality. Even though 1 duality is enough and CFBF is a bad card for multiple reasons, but thats neither here nor there. Point is is justified.

Gorz is terrible once you play test, Solemn Warning is essential: Additional out.

Anyways back to the deck 1 Vayu is enough. 2 Looks "Ok" on paper, but its terrible overall.

Add the 3rd book of moon. 2-3 is a prefrance, and with the decline in Trap Stun over the month, and playing over certain things 3 is only good if its good for you, still one of the best cards this format. And if you had multiple dualities, you could get away with 2, but your engine is limited so 3 is the way to go.

Delta Crow is only good against Bad players. It is fairly easy for anyone with common sense to play around BWs once they know you are playing it. Keep Delta in the side, and side it in if you go through game 1 with heavy back rows from the opportune and/or they suck. Unless your area has players like that then by all means main it. And main a 2nd warning if you can afford it.


I agree with everything you just said.. 2 msy's is a must im still questionable about 3 icarus's but for now its fine, and i was planning on taking out the delta crow for the 2nd warning once i get it, few questions though
how are maining 2 vayus bad now i seems to use 2 almost every duel wheteher its for cfbf allure shura icarus etc?
Also how is 1 cfbf bad it creates more speed its in there until i somehow get another pod, it still thins the deck which is important, right?

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You never "need" 3 Icarus. Its just more consistent, it certain ways: promotes more options in game 1. Its all the same because usually 1 is sided out game 2 anyways.

2 Vayus are bad because it promotes the chance to draw multiples in your hand, when they shouldn't be there: You want them to remain in the deck until said otherwise. Of course your running CFBF so thats where the 2nd vayu can be justified by only in that situation. because it takes up a monster slot suited for something more useful. Like I said its ok on paper, because of the potential options, but eventually you realize you don't need it.

And speaking for Cards for black Feathers, it is a bad card for several reasons:

If you are playing a control variant of BWs, such as this one, and that is your play style, the card is no good. You have to remove a Blackwing from your hand from play, when they have to be in your hand or on the field. The card limits your options. Like a lot of people just see "Draw 2 cards" and thats it, but you have really think is it worth it when a good player can break your field down, to remove an essential blackwing. However the effect of the card changes according to your play style, however in stone its just "ok". Allure has the same reasoning to it, but its like a staple here: can be any dark monster, and removing is part of the effect rather than the cost. They can hurt the same way, but allure is more than enough. Like if allure would to ever get semi-ed again, CFBF would not see anymore play.

Mean Duality does what Cards for black feathers and other draw cards like it, cant do: Provides consistency without a cost. You get to keep your blackwings: Conserve them and play your hand tactfully. Ergo there is no replacement for duality.

However CFBF and Duality work well together. Its not a loss playing both of them as the results can be good. 1 Duality is enough, but yea 1 CFBF can make up for something in this case. Its just not that good of a card in general. Like if you ever get the 2nd duality, no reason to play CFBF anymore unless you want to experiment with things.

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